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    We were stung by a breeder of schnoodles Mirboo / Carrajung Victoria. The tragedy is our puppy died in 5 days of arrival. They are mass producers of dogs for profit. We know have a mini poodle from a local registered breeder.

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    Hmmm, reading this thread with interest...

    I have a question. This forum is called "Australian Purebreed and Crossbreed Dog Forum."
    I note the word crossbreed in there. Sure some of them (probably many) come from obnoxious puppy farms and pet shops.

    But not all. Some are from accidents where bitches were failed to be desexed in time, or not locked up sufficiently enough when on heat, heck, many various reasons. Unfortunate and possibly very unethical at times, but it does happen.

    I know a couple of pet shops in Qld that sell puppies. All the puppies coming in are from those scenarios as listed above. Instead of the owners taking the litter to the pound or an animal shelter, the pet shop owners would first try to find suitable homes for them - and I do mean suitable. Yep, most pet shop owners are not as thorough or caring as these people were, but they ARE still out there.

    Everyone can try and educate the general public on buying a decent puppy with a great temperament from a reputable breeder, but let's face it, not everyone has that sort of money either. That does not mean they don't have the money to raise, feed and care for a dog, they just can't afford the initial outlay. So they go and get a rescue dog (usually always a crossbreed) and do all they can to raise it correctly.

    Sure, I have never had a crossbred dog in my life, but I just don't understand how others who do can be judged? I've never been able to understand that. Those who deliberately go out to find a crossbred dog of certain breeds dumbfound me, but I would certainly never judge a huge majority of other cases.

    I also wonder how many people with crossbreed dogs come here to have a look at this forum and hightail it out of here really quick when they see the consensus coming through the words from those who own purebreed. And yes, it does come across that way, and that is from a person who isn't 'into' crossbreeds.

    Please excuse the long speech - hell, don't even know if I've managed to put what I think into words correctly.

    Food for thought, though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Hmmm, reading this thread with interest...

    I have a question. This forum is called "Australian Purebreed and Crossbreed Dog Forum."
    I note the word crossbreed in there. Sure some of them (probably many) come from obnoxious puppy farms and pet shops.

    But not all. Some are from accidents where bitches were failed to be desexed in time, or not locked up sufficiently enough when on heat, heck, many various reasons. Unfortunate and possibly very unethical at times, but it does happen.

    I know a couple of pet shops in Qld that sell puppies. All the puppies coming in are from those scenarios as listed above. Instead of the owners taking the litter to the pound or an animal shelter, the pet shop owners would first try to find suitable homes for them - and I do mean suitable. Yep, most pet shop owners are not as thorough or caring as these people were, but they ARE still out there.

    Everyone can try and educate the general public on buying a decent puppy with a great temperament from a reputable breeder, but let's face it, not everyone has that sort of money either. That does not mean they don't have the money to raise, feed and care for a dog, they just can't afford the initial outlay. So they go and get a rescue dog (usually always a crossbreed) and do all they can to raise it correctly.

    Sure, I have never had a crossbred dog in my life, but I just don't understand how others who do can be judged? I've never been able to understand that. Those who deliberately go out to find a crossbred dog of certain breeds dumbfound me, but I would certainly never judge a huge majority of other cases.

    I also wonder how many people with crossbreed dogs come here to have a look at this forum and hightail it out of here really quick when they see the consensus coming through the words from those who own purebreed. And yes, it does come across that way, and that is from a person who isn't 'into' crossbreeds.

    Please excuse the long speech - hell, don't even know if I've managed to put what I think into words correctly.

    Food for thought, though...
    I ABSOLUTELY agree 100% and was thinking the same thing yesterday regarding the "Spoodle" comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Hmmm, reading this thread with interest...

    I have a question. This forum is called "Australian Purebreed and Crossbreed Dog Forum."
    I note the word crossbreed in there. Sure some of them (probably many) come from obnoxious puppy farms and pet shops.

    But not all. Some are from accidents where bitches were failed to be desexed in time, or not locked up sufficiently enough when on heat, heck, many various reasons. Unfortunate and possibly very unethical at times, but it does happen.

    I know a couple of pet shops in Qld that sell puppies. All the puppies coming in are from those scenarios as listed above. Instead of the owners taking the litter to the pound or an animal shelter, the pet shop owners would first try to find suitable homes for them - and I do mean suitable. Yep, most pet shop owners are not as thorough or caring as these people were, but they ARE still out there.

    Everyone can try and educate the general public on buying a decent puppy with a great temperament from a reputable breeder, but let's face it, not everyone has that sort of money either. That does not mean they don't have the money to raise, feed and care for a dog, they just can't afford the initial outlay. So they go and get a rescue dog (usually always a crossbreed) and do all they can to raise it correctly.

    Sure, I have never had a crossbred dog in my life, but I just don't understand how others who do can be judged? I've never been able to understand that. Those who deliberately go out to find a crossbred dog of certain breeds dumbfound me, but I would certainly never judge a huge majority of other cases.

    I also wonder how many people with crossbreed dogs come here to have a look at this forum and hightail it out of here really quick when they see the consensus coming through the words from those who own purebreed. And yes, it does come across that way, and that is from a person who isn't 'into' crossbreeds.

    Please excuse the long speech - hell, don't even know if I've managed to put what I think into words correctly.

    Food for thought, though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by puggerup View Post
    This thread wasn't about her getting a crossbreed it was about her being so uninformed that she didn't even know what cross breed she had bought.. and knowing that puppy shop she went to, would have paid through the teeth for him.

    BTW said puppy shop are the morons who pups were stolen and returned the other day.
    Yes Pugger, I'm aware your original post wasn't about the fact that she bought a crossbreed. I just posted my thoughts - maybe I disgressed off topic a bit, but I'm sure we are ALL guilty of that from time to time.

    You know, the lady in question maybe didn't know what breeds she had in her new dog, maybe she didn't care either, she just wanted a dog to love and share life with? All we can do is hope the dog grows up and turns out with a great temperament, and is a good companion for her.

    I have watched 2 vets argue themselves stupid over a dog as to what breeds are in it. What seems blatently clear to one person is not always the obvious opinion of another, so who knows what breeds are truly in her dog...

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    I have a spoodle... I accidently fell in love with him in a pet store coz I have always walked past and said hello to the new puppies! But it was love at first sight with Charlie... I know he probably didn't come from the right place but I loved him so much... I felt so much love for him at the first glance and we were ready for a puppy...when I got him home it was evident that he was terribly dehydrated and I could tell by his first home number 2 that he wasnt weaned on to royal canin as I was told it looked like he had been eating straw he also had to go to the vet and get medication as he had a little blood in his number 2 also.
    I have since educated myself in the past 3 weeks having Charlie here and I will never ever buy from a pet shop again... We do want to get him a playmate in the future maybe when he's 2 or so but we'll be getting a cocker spaniel from a breeder and we've 2 years to research it.
    Like me, sometimes all people need is to have their eyes opened to pet shops and puppy mills! Having a dehydrated sick puppy opened my eyes and got me researching about pet shops and puppy mills...
    I looked at his first vet check papers the other day and it turns out that he came from south nowra and we're in north west sydney... he would have been 8 wks and in a car for at the very leat 4 hours... that would probably account for the dehydration the things people do for money!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil's Advocate View Post
    Hmmm, reading this thread with interest...

    I have a question. This forum is called "Australian Purebreed and Crossbreed Dog Forum."
    I note the word crossbreed in there. Sure some of them (probably many) come from obnoxious puppy farms and pet shops.

    But not all. Some are from accidents where bitches were failed to be desexed in time, or not locked up sufficiently enough when on heat, heck, many various reasons. Unfortunate and possibly very unethical at times, but it does happen.

    I know a couple of pet shops in Qld that sell puppies. All the puppies coming in are from those scenarios as listed above. Instead of the owners taking the litter to the pound or an animal shelter, the pet shop owners would first try to find suitable homes for them - and I do mean suitable. Yep, most pet shop owners are not as thorough or caring as these people were, but they ARE still out there.

    Everyone can try and educate the general public on buying a decent puppy with a great temperament from a reputable breeder, but let's face it, not everyone has that sort of money either. That does not mean they don't have the money to raise, feed and care for a dog, they just can't afford the initial outlay. So they go and get a rescue dog (usually always a crossbreed) and do all they can to raise it correctly.

    Sure, I have never had a crossbred dog in my life, but I just don't understand how others who do can be judged? I've never been able to understand that. Those who deliberately go out to find a crossbred dog of certain breeds dumbfound me, but I would certainly never judge a huge majority of other cases.

    I also wonder how many people with crossbreed dogs come here to have a look at this forum and hightail it out of here really quick when they see the consensus coming through the words from those who own purebreed. And yes, it does come across that way, and that is from a person who isn't 'into' crossbreeds.

    Please excuse the long speech - hell, don't even know if I've managed to put what I think into words correctly.

    Food for thought, though...
    Totally agree DA. I have said something very similar on the Pugalier thread a while back.

    Actually I think the forum has got a bit more tolerant lately. People come here for help so if we can do that and educate them about the pitfalls of a designer crossbreed maybe we can prevent them from making that choice again.

    I know I would not deliberately buy a crossbreed again. Rescue is a different matter though.
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    Frustrating issue....Poor people.

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    Most of the dogs in my life have been bitzas.

    My current dog is a bitza though my cousin the farmer declared her 100% blue heeler... farmers are more concerned with performance in dogs than parentage. Though they will seek out parentage with a high performance dog ahead of a bad one.

    There are enough bitzas in the pounds and shelters without going out and making them on purpose. That's my opinion.

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    I've never had a pure bred dog, but wasn't put off joining the forum because of that. To me all dogs are dogs. Their purity of blood line means a lot less to me than a well adjusted dog from any blood lines. After all the domestic breeds we know today are the result of human intervention in their natural breeding in the hope of achieving a result we are pleased with. Australian breeds are among the newer breeds as an example and their ancestry shows a lot of x breeding to achieve the hardy working dogs to suit this countrys needs.
    But yes I agree that puppy farmers should be run out of business, it's money not a love of dogs that keeps them in business. Lots more needs to be done to educate people (sigh) wish I could come with some positive ideas.

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