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    I've used electric fences for horses, I've seen them used for dogs, I've tried electric dog collar on my own arm and bottom line - I don't think they're cruel at all used properly, and on the lowest settings. I also use an electric zapper when I go scuba diving. And it isn't pleasant to grab hold of when it's on but is much less painful or damaging than dropping a scuba tank on my foot. It's also less painful than getting a jet of water in the ear.

    I think it is much more horrible to see a horse tangled up in a barbed wire fence, kicking to free itself but only making things worse, where as it never would have gone near an electric fence. Same with dogs and electric fences - better to have a dog that respects the boundaries than gets injured in a car accident.

    And the eletric dog collar - better to have a dog that learns not to approach a snake or a bee by being stung slightly by the electric collar than to have a near death experience that snakes and bees can cause. Personally, having tried both (on me), I think the electric training collar dishes out much less pain on the lowest settings than a slip chain pulled tight. And slip chains are mandatory in my dog club and electric devices are banned.

    I do object to the use of tasars on humans though. Those things don't seem to have adjustable settings ie start off gentle and can be dialed up step by step to crippling. And they don't have automatic time outs like the better electric training collars have automatic cut offs so a dog can't be zapped continuously. They'd be ok if used only instead of a gun fired between the eyes, but it seems that this is not how the police force use them.

    Just like a baseball bat - in the wrong hands electric devices can be cruel and inhumane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingoofus View Post
    When I go outside to my Kelpie, I will usually pick her up, cuddle her, kiss her forehead, then playfully nibble around her face, and her ears, etc. Does anyone consider this weird? or normal for someone who cares so much for their dog?
    I go face to face with my own dogs and engage in what approximates doggy behaviour. I don't do it to other peoples dogs and I loathe when people do it to mine.

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    I did have a look on the internet about Cesar Milan and his use of electric collars. It would appear that he only condones their use at the lowest level possible and only if you know exactly how to use them and as a last resort when the only alternative is surrendering the dog.

    I wouldn't be happy to use them but I do say never say never. If you have tried everything else and this is a last resort then it would be worth a try before the dog was either sent to the pound or PTS.
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    I agree Tkay

    I think they'd only be ok when it's life or death for the dog without them.

    But I also think the fear factor or nasty reaction people who mention them get, is a bit out of proportion or from complete ignorance. A bit like the people who hate dogs, think dogs should never be allowed any public place off lead.

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    back on topic

    I see my dog wrestling with other dogs, and she tugs on their cheeks, lips, ears, neck without seeming to hurt them - they come willingly back for more. Other dogs, she plays with but never actually touches - I don't know how she knows which ones like it physical and which don't.

    I also see her cuddling toys or my shoes or even other dogs from time to time though usually she'd rather play with other dogs.

    So I think it's no big deal she wants to cuddle with me. She'd also like to wrestle with me but I'm much less keen on that.

    As far as the kissing and nibbling goes, I know what else she's been kissing and what she's been rolling in - so I'm not so keen on touching her with my mouth. I sometimes let her touch my chin, but that's as far as I'll volunteer with sharing germs. I'm sometimes a bit casual about washing my hands though. I just not-think about the germs.

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    I dont think your unusual at all, but please remember that some behaviours that involve scruffing, tugging and being over the top around a dogs face can incite negative behaviours.

    I love to snuggle with my boy and girl and I love sass's kisses but they never come into my personal space unless they are specifically invited, in all of your affection, remember to keep the top dog status.

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