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    Hi, new dog owner here. I have a lot to learn and am loving it. But was wondering about my dog being on heat. She is a Bichon Frise and this is her first heat. She is a purebred and we will Breed her when she is older and when she is fully trained etc. It is all new to me, but hey, we have to start somewhere. Now I know how male dogs carry on when a dog is in heat but was wondering about the female. She started her cycle on 2/8/2009 and is still swollen. The vet told me about the swelling, then the bleeding and then the mating stage. It is also my understanding that in some dogs you dont notice the bleeding as they can be rather good at cleaning up themselves. She has been wearing some special undies on and off a few days ago but has had no real signs of bleeding as yet. We were preparing her to get use to them for when she does bleed as she is an inside dog. So it is now 14 says into her heat and no bleeding yet. Do they get frisky like a male or behave in a different matter? I know she smells differently to male dogs but will we notice any kind of smell? Are there any other changes?

    We have a secure backyard with a 6ft colourbond fence and someone is with her so to take no chance of any dog jumping fence, otherwise she is indoors. Thanks everyone

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    First Hello and Bichony,
    In your post you said that she is a purebreed and we will breed her when she is older and when she is fully trained etc.
    Are you a registered breeder? If not, Then Why breed her?

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    We are in the process of learning all about that. She is only 7 months, and it will be a couple of years before we do. She does have papers, and we are new to all this so it is a leaning process for us, but we have to start somewhere. Lots of research to do still, and thought I might learn a lot in these forums. Every little bit of info helps. But most of all she is a beautiful little dog that our family adores

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    The best person to talk to is the breeder of your pup. A good breeder should offer a lifetime of support to the owners of the puppies they produce.

    I think you have misunderstood your Vet.

    The first sign of a bitch in season is swelling AND bleeding. The bleeding tapers off during mid cycle when the bitch is ready to stand for mating.

    The average season lasts for around 21 days but some bitches are in for a month and I was lucky enough to have a Border Collie who only came in for a week once every 11 months.

    An old fashioned way to tell if a bitch is ready to stand is to give her a gentle scratch at the base of her tail in the direction of her head (difficult to describe). If she flicks her tail to the side she is ready to accept a dog.

    If you are serious about wanting to breed you must do your homework first. Is your bitch good enough to be bred from? Pet quality bitches with no papers or on limited registration are simply pets and should be desexed.

    Do you know what health tests are required for your breed before breeding can be considered?

    Are you a member of your state's canine council? Do you have a registered kennel prefix?

    Are you confident you can cope with a bitch in labour? Toy breeds often have difficult births. Do you know how long to leave a bitch before calling the Vet? Do you know when or how to administer calcium and oxytocin if the birth is difficult? Is your Vet on call 24/7 in case your bitch needs an emergency C-section? If your bitch dies (yes, it happens) or is unable to feed her offspring will you have time to hand rear the puppies?

    It's very important to do your homework before breeding a litter.

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    Hi Nixi31

    If you don't want to breed from her for a few years - it might be an idea to ask your vet about "the pill" for your puppy. I shared a house with a lady who owned a kelpie that sometimes went into heat, and life would get very exciting - lots of extra dogs would visit. There are lots of unwanted puppies around from accidents - some male dogs can be very adept at breaking in to places where there are bitches on heat.

    Personally I noticed a smell - similar to a woman's undies that been worn several days straight - not nice, and there were blood spots anywhere the bitch sat or lay down - she definitely leaked and the spots would smell too if they weren't cleaned up.

    Anyway my house mate put her bitch "on the pill", which sorted all that.

    I agree with Deerhound about asking the breeder for more information or details on the whole process. I know some of the best show breeders ask the people they place their puppies with if they would be willing to breed - for the better quality puppies and they try to place their lesser standard puppies with people who don't want to breed.

    I also have some friends who want to breed their bitches just the once, to educate their children about the processes involved in life from birth to death. Personally I think that's a bit over the top, but it went well for my friend who has done it, she had no trouble placing all her puppies. I think that breeders that do it for the love of it and their breed and their dog are better than those that are motivated solely by profit and greed.

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    Thanks guys for your comments. Yes we will end up breeding her eventually, and we will go the right way about it. I am a pet lover, so it will all be done responsibly and properly. I know I do not know much about it that is why I am doing some research now. There is a lot to learn that is why I thought this is a great way to get a lot of different opions.My vet is willing to answer any questions that I have and we will be having plenty of check ups and do all the proper test etc when the time gets closer. Also the breeder is prepared to answer any questions as well. So I think all will be fine, I just wanted to jump on here and get some advise and different opions. So any one out there that might be worried that it is some one else who just wants to breed with there eyes shut, there is no need. If I am not 100% or my dog is not 100% ready/prepared/healthy etc it will not go ahead and she will be desexed.
    As for the pill, I wont worry about that. I know accidents can happen but I am confident that she will be ok. Whilst she is on heat she has someone here with her the whole time. When she is outside we are there with her, she is not out of anyone's sight... I am sure it would suit some dogs though. So far the whole been on heat process hasn't been too bad at all. When she gets a bit messy we have some little panties for her to wear. She has had a trial run with them and has also been sleeping in them, so when she starts to bleed it wont be to foreign to her.

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    Hmmm, IMO, I think you should leave this too the pro's.
    We already have hundreds of standard fluffy dogs in shelters.
    Is you breeding this dog going to improve the breed?
    Whats wrong with other breeders?
    Why your bitch?
    Education not Legislation

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    Could I be so crude to say you dont have a Bichon Frise, but rather a Bichon Heat....

    sorry, couldnt resist..... and no, that was not helpful...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mitte View Post
    Could I be so crude to say you dont have a Bichon Frise, but rather a Bichon Heat....

    sorry, couldnt resist..... and no, that was not helpful...
    Very clever.

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