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    Mitte, rol.... very clever.......


    Aussiemyf7,
    why not me??? I have noticed that there are a few negative people about new dog owners wanting to breed in this forum site and I can understand why in most circumstances. And why leave it only to a pro? Hopefully I will consider myself close to been a pro when I do this, yes I do not know much now (they certainly do not teach you this at uni) but I am going to learn whatever I can before I do this.
    So why leave this to other breeders? What is to say my breed is not the right one? Is it because of the breed you say this or the lack on knowledge that I may have? Who is to say the ones with all the knowledge could have there pups in the shelters? I truly hope this would not happen and I know there is always a possibility with any dog and any breed unfortunately. Yes I am inexperienced but I am willing, and AM going to learn as much as I can. I am certain that the majority of breeders did not know everything when they first got their dog. Does everyone know everything about a baby when they fall pregnant? Does this mean they are not going to be a good parent or their children are going to be messed up? I dont think so. As I have said I am going to do this with as much knowledge as I possibly can and if my family or dog is not ready/prepared/healthy etc I would not even consider this and I would desex her.
    Sorry to be so harsh but this is something that I have a passion for and have spent the last 6-7 years researching what breed I want so it is not something that I have just decided overnight. And as for the other breeders I am sure they are fantastic, and hopefully I will find a few great mentors out there that share the same passion as I do.

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    I think you'll find most of us are quite passionate when it comes to this topic.We may come across confronting and blunt but we don't mean to ( most of the time anyway )

    It sounds like you are really doing your homework , in which case I commend you. You say you hope for a mentor , I was going to suggest this .
    And don't forget there are the health testing etc ( I'm not sure of the genetic potentials for your breed) as well as being a registered breeder to be able to register your pups.

    Then there is the placing the pups . What type of demand is there for your breed?
    Is your dog a really good example of the breed ? If she isn't then (you need to be very honest with yourself here) why breed her ?

    And this isn't even scratching the surface
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    If your girl has been swollen for two weeks then she has been in seasson for that time - regardless of whether or not you see bleeding. Every girl is different (just like humans) and some bleed so little you might not see it at all. Some can be ready to mate just a few days after swelling, some not for another three weeks. Unless your vet is a repro specialist then you are better off getting advice from experienced breeder who see much more at this end than vets usually do.

    With your breeding, it is a lovely and exciting thought. But please consider very carefully. Go out to some dog shows and meet some Bichon breeders and exhibitors. Learn your breed standard and the official extension to that breed standrad backwards. Learn your girls bloodlines and be honest with yourself about what is good and bad about them. Babies often display strong characteristics of their grandparents so you need a solid knowledge not only of what your girl has but what is behind her. This includes health as well as looks. This also goes for any male you consider for her.

    Have your girl thoroughly vet checked - including full organ screening blood tests prior to planning a mating. Be prepared for big expenses - puppy raising is far from cheap and emergency c-sections and hand raising pups if (god forbid) anything happens to your bitch is hard, heartbreaking and exhausting work.

    Also make sure you have your girl physically evaluated by several experienced breeders or qualified dog judges - or get out and start showing her - that's what shows are for, opinions!

    Nobody doubts her perfection as a family pet, but be certain of her perfection as an example of her breed before you proceed to breed her.

    Good luck!

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    Nattylou and Choppachop and everyone else. Thanks for your comments. You have all gave me very imfomative information, the more the better. And I totally agree with everyone about the breeding, if she doesnt "fit" the high standards of what she should be I will not breed her and she will be desexed. We will love her all the same. The vet has mentioned about the test, but that was at her last vaccination so it was a little while ago and she said all will be discussed as she gets a little older.
    How do you find out about dog shows? Would love to go and have a look and I am sure the kids would get a kick out of it.

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    If you haven't already done so join the CCCQ (Canine Control Council Qld). Every month you get a magazine listing shows and other information. You must be a member in order to show your dog and transfer her registration into your name.

    It's also a good idea to join your breed club. I've just had a quick look and there does not seem to be a Bichon club in Qld so try contacting the Toy Dog Club of Qld. Mrs J. Watt. Ph. (07) 3372 3654.

    Experienced club members can help you learn how to show your dog to her best advantage, how to groom and what trimming and/or clipping is required for the ring. I don't know much about Bichons apart from the fact most seem to have lovely temperaments and loads of patience.

    Hope this helps a bit.

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    Is she registered on the open register? If not, you can't show her. Your breeder again is the best one to advise you of the way to go about breeding and showing with her, afterall, they've been there and done that and have the experience and knowledge to help guide you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bichony View Post
    How do you find out about dog shows? Would love to go and have a look and I am sure the kids would get a kick out of it.
    Pitty you didn't post this last week....you just missed the Ekka shows

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    Hey Bichony. If you go to the CCCQ website they have a list of shows: CCCQ - Australia

    That way you can track down some nearby and go have a stickybeak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bichony View Post
    Mitte, rol.... very clever.......


    Aussiemyf7,
    why not me??? I have noticed that there are a few negative people about new dog owners wanting to breed in this forum site and I can understand why in most circumstances. And why leave it only to a pro? Hopefully I will consider myself close to been a pro when I do this, yes I do not know much now (they certainly do not teach you this at uni) but I am going to learn whatever I can before I do this.
    So why leave this to other breeders? What is to say my breed is not the right one? Is it because of the breed you say this or the lack on knowledge that I may have? Who is to say the ones with all the knowledge could have there pups in the shelters? I truly hope this would not happen and I know there is always a possibility with any dog and any breed unfortunately. Yes I am inexperienced but I am willing, and AM going to learn as much as I can. I am certain that the majority of breeders did not know everything when they first got their dog. Does everyone know everything about a baby when they fall pregnant? Does this mean they are not going to be a good parent or their children are going to be messed up? I dont think so. As I have said I am going to do this with as much knowledge as I possibly can and if my family or dog is not ready/prepared/healthy etc I would not even consider this and I would desex her.
    Sorry to be so harsh but this is something that I have a passion for and have spent the last 6-7 years researching what breed I want so it is not something that I have just decided overnight. And as for the other breeders I am sure they are fantastic, and hopefully I will find a few great mentors out there that share the same passion as I do.
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