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    Hello,
    Sorry for long post! A few questions if anyone can help me pls. I may sound a bit dog ignorant! We have recently taken on a 4mth old dog (fostering with view to keeping) that was returned to the RSPCA due to 'naughty' behaviour. RSPCA said they didn't believe she was naughty at all but that the owners had no time for her and that she had been a bit mistreated. I have only grown up with very obedient farm working dogs so don't know the full behaviours of a so called 'naughty' house dog.
    I have a two year old boy and a baby, so am home all day and willing to put time in to train correctly. However I need to know she will be a suitable family dog. I'm not sure if her behaviours are puppy play....I want to know if you think she is trainable and suitable to be around young kids before we make the long term decision of keeping her.
    These are the things I have seen so far;
    Nipping/biting while playing
    Jumping up at you -however learning quick when told 'no', i have also turned my back when she has done this (not sure if that is correct)
    Chews alot - most things you drop are hers, she will give back though when told firmly. (im pretty sure thats norma?)
    Gets a fright easily, timid at times
    This one is the one I'm not sure about - whimpering and growling at dogs when on the lesh, trying to run at them. I have made her sit and told her 'no' and over the last few days she has settled with 3 smaller dogs she has seen. However yesterday a Lab was off leash with owner and owner brought her up to my dog (told her not good idea!) my dog jumped with paws, barked, and bit other dog, was very hard to restrain on leash, didnt respond to no or heal or pulling on chain. Is it because she doesn't know how to socialise or is it vicious behaviour???
    She appears to play nicely with my two year old who has sat on her and has pulled her tail, she has run with him in the yard with the bull a few times, however she doesnt really know what to do. I will enroll her in dog training once we have made our decision.
    Are her behaviours normal or naughty???? Thanks for your time!

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    Hi Nixi31
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    Firstly, Congratulations for giving this little girl a home and doing what you can to help her inc. seeking advice from others

    In my opinion, but I'm no expert-everything your girl's doing is either normal puppy behaviour/behaviur that can be changed.

    The most important thing I think is that she is good with the kids. Big+!

    I think that the nipping,jumping, chewing will go with training and positive reinforcement.

    In re. to Being timid- alot of rescue dogs/pups are especially when they're young and most get better. One of the reasons they're fearful is because they havn't had a steady home, loving owner and sometimes worse- been mistreated like your pup.
    The behavoiour in re. to other dogs...sounds to me like she hadn't been socialized around dogs. Obedience classes should help lots. Possible fear aggression also.
    My girl Lola was the same. I adopted her at 4 months as well and she displayed most of the behaviours you talk about. She's now 11months and great! I'd recommend Lots of love & affection, reward - when she's good, use treats, and obedience training as I think she might be too old for puppy school, if she's not too old then puppy school 1st then obedience.
    She sounds to me like a great little girl, just needs a bit of guidence and training.
    I'm sure Others here will advise you more.
    Best of luck &
    Pl let us know what you decide
    Ps. Curious about what breed she is...

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    Hello and Nixi31
    Hope you enjoy this forum, There isn't much i can add Mags and SH covered what i would have said My NJ was a bit like your pup when he was young the biting, chewing, jumping but with training thats all good now and i have kids too. May i ask what your pooch's name is? Any pictures

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    Thanks for the replies already! The Rspca said she is a boxer cross, don't know what she's crossed with. I will add a picture as soon as I can figure that out. Yes I agree about always err on the side of caution I won't leave my kids with any dogs unsupervised especially not at this age. She does seem very loving, however she did just steal my sons hat and run off with it! She didnt listen to 'NO' that time either! She seemed to think that was a game! Keep the replies coming I'm up for any adivce and have also rang the dog obidience school but can't start classes till next Monday.
    Thanks again

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    I think I have attached a photo??? Her name is Jazz, we originally lookd at getting an older dog tht was called Jazz (we missed out someone else took her) and now that's what my son has been calling this dog! So it's stuck now!
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    part Bullmastiff for sure but only has small feet so wont be as big, cant see any boxer but put some other pictures up when you can Nxi31, she looks very pretty. we had some of the same issues with our rescue pup being scared of other dogs nipping etc but after 6 months all good and she walks and behaves on and off the leash. Make her part of your family and you will have a great guard and companion for your kids but make sure you set the rules and stick to them, stubbiness and the making up their own mind to do things are Bullmastiff traits hence you need to firm but kind.

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    Hi Nixi!
    What you're experiencing is perfectly normal puppy behaviour, and trust me, it could be much much worse! I understand it might be stressful and a bit of a pain with two small children and a puppy which is like a third child if you ask me but well done on trying to do your best!

    So here we go...
    Nipping/biting while playing
    Perfectly normal, puppy is teething and feels unpleasant at moments and tries to chew on anything. When playing she does not yet know how to balance the strength of her bite so she doesn't hurt people or other dogs. She will learn in time. Some dogs never stop biting, but learn to be gentle. For example, my 2 year old "bites" when happy, but he's just gently taking my fingers in his mouth and not squeezing. That's what dogs do to each other. What you should do is let her know it hurts when she squeezes too hard. Be vokal, try and imitate squeeking. In time she will learn the limits.

    Jumping up at you -however learning quick when told 'no', i have also turned my back when she has done this (not sure if that is correct)
    Perfect! That's exactly what anyone should do when teaching puppy/dog not to jump. In dog's language, turning back means "I'm not interested" or "Take it easy pal!"

    Chews alot - most things you drop are hers, she will give back though when told firmly. (im pretty sure thats norma?)
    It's normal, she's teething. And she's just curious as well. It will stop in time. Just keep teaching her the way you do what she's allowed and what she's not allowed. Also, maybe start teaching her to drop (the food, item) when you ask her to - it's very useful. And ALWAYS award the good behaviour!

    Gets a fright easily, timid at times
    By what? Can you describe situations?

    This one is the one I'm not sure about - whimpering and growling at dogs when on the leash, trying to run at them. I have made her sit and told her 'no' and over the last few days she has settled with 3 smaller dogs she has seen. However yesterday a Lab was off leash with owner and owner brought her up to my dog (told her not good idea!) my dog jumped with paws, barked, and bit other dog, was very hard to restrain on leash, didnt respond to no or heal or pulling on chain. Is it because she doesn't know how to socialise or is it vicious behaviour???
    In my opinion, lab owner did well. Also, in my opinion, best school is given by older experienced, well mannered and stable dog. No human can ever be substitute for that, trust me! How did the lab react? Do not be afraid if older dog "teaches her a lesson". It's normal and in my opinion desirable. Pulling her leash, restraining her and not allowing her to meet other dogs no matter what size or breed will make it only worse. I always let my old girl to go to youngsters and if they overdo it, she'll let them know.

    She appears to play nicely with my two year old who has sat on her and has pulled her tail, she has run with him in the yard with the bull a few times, however she doesn't really know what to do.
    Umm... I wouldn't allow kids pulling and sitting on her. Really. She may be great and that's fine, but kids should also be taught what's right and what's wrong since early age, and pulling tails and be overly physical (not intentionally) is a big no-no! Kids that small don't have a feeling how much to squeeze or how hard they're pulling, just like your pup doesn't have feeling how hard she may bite

    You're doing well, don't worry and keep up good work!

    cheers!
    Last edited by Fedra; 08-12-2009 at 05:31 PM.

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    Awww, Now isn't she just a sweetie. So cute

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    Thanks for all the great advice and replies! What a great friendly forum!!!
    I got some more information from the rspca today and apparently they thought she had been getting kicked and rough handled by the 2nd previous owner. Apparently she was returned very scared and she was originally an outgoing puppy. She has had two owners already, the first said they couldnt keep her because landlord wouldnt allow and the second they said returned her because they didnt want a dog anymore and had just left her in the yard all day and night. She's only 4mths old!!! They also said a lot of her behaviour was because no one has bothered to walk her or do anything with her so she has no idea what to do.

    They totally confused me as to her breed, on the kennel card they had boxer X and on the envelope pack I was given today it said Boxer X but the vet documents etc say Mastiff X!!!! Personally I see Mastiff X? I have added more photos for you Bronx.

    Freda -The types of scared behaviour we saw was cowering at my husband and afraid of people standing behind her - possibly makes sense if she has been kicked from behind? She has improvd greatly with my husband - hes more the dog minded person than i am but works away during the week so i cant ask for his advice at mo! Re: my son pulling tail, sitting on her etc I totally agree- he was reprimanded for that, just wanted to let you know Jazz didn't respond by hurting him etc

    Another thing she was doing today was lunging or trying too at female walkers and runners, she seemed to go more at males as they went by. She didnt bark, or growl she just cut across in front of me and tried to get them.I have startd to stop her say 'sit' and wait till they have walked by, I'm not too sure if that's the right approach...i'm very keen to start dog training nxt Mon! I don't want to do things wrong and make the matter worse.
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    Hi Nixi31

    Thanks for the photos and I agree with Puggerup on the photos comments

    I am sure your going to be a very happy family

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