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  1. #61

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    Aussie floyd, it's usually just done for fashion/cometic reasons, not medical or for fighting. Just like every other dog that is shown with crops. If crops showing clean heads get the points over the ones with ears then dogs get cropped.

    Dogsavvy, there is a huge problem with people either unwilling, or unable to manage the dogs properly these days and it is getting worse as years go on.

    But as much as you wish it the dogs will not become extinct, it is simply not possible by any means, government funded or otherwise.
    So unless you can somehow find another means of approach to the experiences you have had I think you may live in turmoil for the rest of your days, and thats not a real healthy way to live.

    I used to wish the same about junkies ( I seriously thought I was an agro junkie magnet for a while lol) every where i went I was getting harrassed but I realised no matter what they will still be around, and more and more of them every year flicking needles onto the pavement or screaming for a dollar.

  2. #62

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    Mr Pitbull, those bully conventions are really going well I have seen a few vids of them outstripping UKC AKC and ADBA shows in some parts, your style of dogs are extreamly popular in the States. I think there is definatly a place for them in the dog kingdom and I prefer your bully style than some other bully style I have seen on the net.

  3. #63

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Floyd View Post
    Mr Pittbull..

    Can i ask "why the cropped ears" in which i find is absolutely disgusting thing to do to any dog


    is it done for medical reasons?? in which i'm yet to discover what possible medical reasons there are to warrant the need to crop dogs ears, that's if any medical reasons even exist, considering today's modern medical treatments & practices.

    or for "image status thing" only reason "look at my tough dog killer dog"

    or for fighting reasons


    So pleased that the practice of ear cropping is illegal in Australia.
    I find this comment laughable every time I hear this hypocritical rebuke. For 90% of those who make this statement of ignorance did what to the penis of their Male born Son? "First abstract the rafter out of your own eye"!

  4. #64

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    Hello again Mr PitBull
    Many thanks for being a seemingly intelligent,corteous dog person , its a rare trait to find in this day and age.

    I do agree that no person should need debate their own goals and aspirations.
    However I do feel they may need questioning if the end results are for example , unsound animals . Not just dogs , I see it in my chosen breed of horse as well , much damage is being done to the true versatile Arabian.

    This is why I still see some flaws in your chosen dogs. Again with utmost respect and meaning no offence.

    I still see short unstructured legs carrying heavy,closed barrels,big heads with wide spaced ears yet still short tight snouts/limited airway.
    I see evidence of over muscular development on incorrect bone density , mass does not equal strength.

    I would certainly not be as presumptious as to even try to stack my girl against your dogs , but if I was to , then looking at my dog I would see a much better structured animal that looks and is built to be athletic.Lovely clean throat with a well bodied engine housing on strong,clean legs.Still with good bone without the un-needed mass.
    I also feel that my girl would do well in show as well as sport ( remembering every owner see's their dogs through rose coloured glasses ) She has a pleasing , well defined head and is overall a smooth bodied dog who is pleasing to the eye.
    And above all of this , as much as I feel papers mean very little when it comes to this breed - inparticular here in Australia as it is often found hanging a common occurence- my dog is still to most an unknown dog as,although I owned both her dam and sire only her dam was papered. There is no doubting indeed what she is but I think you will understand my meaning.

    In regards to your dogs above ; remembering that beauty is in the eye of the beholder
    Both dogs look overdone Staffords . The male worse than his daughter but still the daughter is not exhibiting a clean ,athletic body.Simba however does show a nice enough chest but not a long enough length of throat. Her dad however does have this redeeming trait.He does appear to have a clean enough throat and not a badly defined skull even if a little wide at the ears.
    However he has a 'tank' like body being carried by virtualy nothing; I can see virtualy no canon nor can I see well defined chest/rib ratio .

    Again,I am no Judge ,I am just a lover of my breed but when I see these Edge dogs I fail to see APBT's .

    Just as a matter of aside,there are some small breeders bringing in Gotti stock to use in their Amstaff programs here in Oz , something I believe will be of great detriment to the breed .

    What use a dog of nice colour,that is nice to look at ( to some) even with perfect temp ( which I stand and applaude you for) if that dog can hardly perform a simple chase around a ball at the local park.

    My apologies for such a rambling post , most who know me also know I often find it hard to portray my thoughts to an internet posting in the way in which I mean them.

    RJ
    ChoppaChop, You are alright; we do well to work together, as we have the same goal (to protect the breed), just different outlooks. Wish you well!

  5. #65

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    Thankyou Mr PitBull , in the end that is our ultimate goal afterall
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  6. #66

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogSavvy View Post
    My immediate thoughts now when hearing the words Pit Bull, ' Why on earth would anyone want such a dog when there are so many other GOOD and better breeds around?"

    These were never my thoughts originally until I started coming across too many Pit Bulls aka Amstaffs plus crosses of, most of which being owned by testosterone driven irresponsible mindless males who have no thought for their own dogs let alone anyone elses. Once i would never have even contemplated saying this but I now believe this breed should become extinct.
    So DogSavvy , what if I had only bad experience with whichever breed it is you deem 'good' ?

    There Morons who own all breeds , the APBT cerainly isn't exclusive.
    Of course they do tend to attract the types who shouldn't own a gold fish much less than a dog and the dog is just a status symbol , nothing more than something ( they think ) makes them appear tuff dude .

    But are you really prepared to state you hope to see an entire breed wiped out because of patheticly weak people holding the leash ?
    That is a very narrow minded view to take,also very unrealistic.

    The APBT will never be 'extinct' .
    Just like idiots will always own one dog or another for nothing more than 'looks' or what they term 'sport'.

    Reading your post one would also class you then as a BSL supporter ? Would that be correct ?

    What is your chosen breed may I ask ?
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  7. #67

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    Oh just quickly adding - have you based this opinion of wiping a breed out on personal experience with the breed or just media heresay?
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  8. #68

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    Pitbulls are killers and to suggest that they are not is ignoring the facts. The reason people obtain Pitbulls for killing is that is what they are best for. You don't obtain a poodle to be a pig dog. In saying that I suggest all dogs are dangerous and as we all gather some more than others. From experience I would suggest aggressive dogs have aggressive owners. I have friends who own pitbulls, one friends would take the food from my mouth so gently it’s amazing. Friendly and great with people and I would deem the owner’s family friendly. Another friend’s pitbull is a killer and it’s his number one pig killing dog. The owner is ex SAS and full on aggressive person by nature which leads to my own conclusion dogs reflect their owners.

  9. #69

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    Quote Originally Posted by culprit View Post
    Pitbulls are killers and to suggest that they are not is ignoring the facts. The reason people obtain Pitbulls for killing is that is what they are best for. You don't obtain a poodle to be a pig dog. In saying that I suggest all dogs are dangerous and as we all gather some more than others. From experience I would suggest aggressive dogs have aggressive owners. I have friends who own pitbulls, one friends would take the food from my mouth so gently it’s amazing. Friendly and great with people and I would deem the owner’s family friendly. Another friend’s pitbull is a killer and it’s his number one pig killing dog. The owner is ex SAS and full on aggressive person by nature which leads to my own conclusion dogs reflect their owners.
    Yes well sorry but I am going to disagree and I can assure you I do not ignore the facts.

    An APBT is whatever you make it of it,they will do their damndest to become what you choose them to be.

    Killers is a very dramatic word. They are known for Dog Aggression but killers ?
    I know very few who use pure dogs for hunting,alot use a dog with some Pit blood but not often pure.

    You call them killers in one breath and then go onto say you know one that is very gentle and people friendly.

    As in my last post,their will be arseholes who own all breeds.
    All dogs have the potential to be 'killers'.

    May I ask what has given you such a strong impression that the APBT is a killer?
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  10. #70

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    My 2 cent's worth Here where i live there are alot i mean alot of pig dogs and i know many people that go pigging and from what i have seen and know, alot of those people do not use purebreed pit bulls some don't even have them in the mix's as they use other breeds of dogs which they believe are better. just to add i don't agree with pig hunting. I just know people.
    Not all pitbulls are killers I owned 2.
    I like the saying ban the other end of the lead.

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