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  1. #51

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    Hi and Welcome Mr Pitbull.

    You have written a good post outlining the difficulties we face everyday with the media and hype that comes along with these dogs.


    But I also need to be honest and I want to stress that mean no direct offence. No matter what one may think after I have finished my post , I am a believer of each to thier own.

    But I see you have Razor dogs and are breeding for such. Claiming that you are breeding the ultimate speciman of APBT. Sadly my friend I very much disagree .
    I see many health issues with these dogs , I prefer to refer to them as AmBull rather than PitBull.

    I have always advocated that we do more damage amongst ourselves then this idiotic law does at times , but if I am going to be serious with myself and totally honest then I just cannot condone the standard of dog you are striving for.
    Or maybe its that you call them APBT .
    But even just as an individual dog irregardless of breed , I dont see before me ,healthy well structured animals.

    Perhaps you may care to give me some reasons into why you would continue to strive for such unsound animals beside the fact that you call them APBT.

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    The only pit bulls I've met were family pets with young children, a pair of big sooks that only ever wanted to be cuddled and play.

  3. #53

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    Hi and Welcome Mr Pitbull.

    You have written a good post outlining the difficulties we face everyday with the media and hype that comes along with these dogs.


    But I also need to be honest and I want to stress that mean no direct offence. No matter what one may think after I have finished my post , I am a believer of each to thier own.

    But I see you have Razor dogs and are breeding for such. Claiming that you are breeding the ultimate speciman of APBT. Sadly my friend I very much disagree .
    I see many health issues with these dogs , I prefer to refer to them as AmBull rather than PitBull.

    I have always advocated that we do more damage amongst ourselves then this idiotic law does at times , but if I am going to be serious with myself and totally honest then I just cannot condone the standard of dog you are striving for.
    Or maybe its that you call them APBT .
    But even just as an individual dog irregardless of breed , I dont see before me ,healthy well structured animals.

    Perhaps you may care to give me some reasons into why you would continue to strive for such unsound animals beside the fact that you call them APBT.

    Cheers
    ChoppaChop, I here you friend. I too am concerned by some of the breeding practices that has resulted in dogs with clear structural deficiencies. Yet not everyone breeding Edge or Gotti dogs are breeding poor quality. Having been to many UKC shows until the recent change in the breed standard, Edge dogs were cleaning house. They were stacking against the more traditional style and judges were picking Edge dogs.

    I am not going to debate with anyone what I like in a dog and what my vision is because I know that beauty lies in the eye of the beholder. I will though stack my dogs up against anyones. My dogs are bred for a different purpose than what traditional style pits are bred. They are not bred for aggressiveness, they are not bred to continue fighting at all cost. They are bred to be companion dogs of which they excel. If you have an interest in education you may want to read this article: American Pitbulls | Bully Breed | Bullies I wish you and your dogs well.

  4. #54

    Default ChoppChop - I DARE YOU TO STACK UP AGAINST THIS BOY!



  5. #55

    Default ChoppaChop - LETS MAKE THIS FAIR - I'LL STACK THIS GIRL UP AGAINST YOUR MALES!

    This Girl is off my boy Bra'tac. She is half sister to the boy above.



  6. #56

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    Hello again Mr PitBull
    Many thanks for being a seemingly intelligent,corteous dog person , its a rare trait to find in this day and age.

    I do agree that no person should need debate their own goals and aspirations.
    However I do feel they may need questioning if the end results are for example , unsound animals . Not just dogs , I see it in my chosen breed of horse as well , much damage is being done to the true versatile Arabian.

    This is why I still see some flaws in your chosen dogs. Again with utmost respect and meaning no offence.

    I still see short unstructured legs carrying heavy,closed barrels,big heads with wide spaced ears yet still short tight snouts/limited airway.
    I see evidence of over muscular development on incorrect bone density , mass does not equal strength.

    I would certainly not be as presumptious as to even try to stack my girl against your dogs , but if I was to , then looking at my dog I would see a much better structured animal that looks and is built to be athletic.Lovely clean throat with a well bodied engine housing on strong,clean legs.Still with good bone without the un-needed mass.
    I also feel that my girl would do well in show as well as sport ( remembering every owner see's their dogs through rose coloured glasses ) She has a pleasing , well defined head and is overall a smooth bodied dog who is pleasing to the eye.
    And above all of this , as much as I feel papers mean very little when it comes to this breed - inparticular here in Australia as it is often found hanging a common occurence- my dog is still to most an unknown dog as,although I owned both her dam and sire only her dam was papered. There is no doubting indeed what she is but I think you will understand my meaning.

    In regards to your dogs above ; remembering that beauty is in the eye of the beholder
    Both dogs look overdone Staffords . The male worse than his daughter but still the daughter is not exhibiting a clean ,athletic body.Simba however does show a nice enough chest but not a long enough length of throat. Her dad however does have this redeeming trait.He does appear to have a clean enough throat and not a badly defined skull even if a little wide at the ears.
    However he has a 'tank' like body being carried by virtualy nothing; I can see virtualy no canon nor can I see well defined chest/rib ratio .

    Again,I am no Judge ,I am just a lover of my breed but when I see these Edge dogs I fail to see APBT's .

    Just as a matter of aside,there are some small breeders bringing in Gotti stock to use in their Amstaff programs here in Oz , something I believe will be of great detriment to the breed .

    What use a dog of nice colour,that is nice to look at ( to some) even with perfect temp ( which I stand and applaude you for) if that dog can hardly perform a simple chase around a ball at the local park.

    My apologies for such a rambling post , most who know me also know I often find it hard to portray my thoughts to an internet posting in the way in which I mean them.

    RJ
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    Mr Pittbull..

    Can i ask "why the cropped ears" in which i find is absolutely disgusting thing to do to any dog


    is it done for medical reasons?? in which i'm yet to discover what possible medical reasons there are to warrant the need to crop dogs ears, that's if any medical reasons even exist, considering today's modern medical treatments & practices.

    or for "image status thing" only reason "look at my tough dog killer dog"

    or for fighting reasons


    So pleased that the practice of ear cropping is illegal in Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Floyd View Post
    Mr Pittbull..

    Can i ask "why the cropped ears" in which i find is absolutely disgusting thing to do to any dog


    is it done for medical reasons?? in which i'm yet to discover what possible medical reasons there are to warrant the need to crop dogs ears, that's if any medical reasons even exist, considering today's modern medical treatments & practices.

    or for "image status thing" only reason "look at my tough dog killer dog"

    or for fighting reasons


    So pleased that the practice of ear cropping is illegal in Australia.
    My thoughts exactly. Barbaric, cruel and pointless now dog fighting is illegal in civilized countries.

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    My immediate thoughts now when hearing the words Pit Bull, ' Why on earth would anyone want such a dog when there are so many other GOOD and better breeds around?"

    These were never my thoughts originally until I started coming across too many Pit Bulls aka Amstaffs plus crosses of, most of which being owned by testosterone driven irresponsible mindless males who have no thought for their own dogs let alone anyone elses. Once i would never have even contemplated saying this but I now believe this breed should become extinct.

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    Hey Choppa,

    Well - nasty, viscous, and bloodthirsty. This is the image that the media has given everyone.

    Although pit-bulls are known for their aggressiveness towards others, they can actually be rather nice dogs if trained properly. My friend has a pitbull and I must say it does bark a lot but it isn't something that would go for your leg. If properly trained pitbulls can be a nice dog.

    On the other hand, I don't think I would ever keep one. I'm not saying I hate them, just that I would never want the risk of being responsible for my dog injuring someone else. I really couldn't be able to put up with that.

    Just my two cents,
    Charlie
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