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    Hey Pooch Lovers,

    It’s been a busy week and a half for me – two interesting dog interactions which have made me really have to put my thinking cap on. You were all great in responding to my first situation .. now here’s the second. I thought it would be a good one to post. I’m kinda gonna do this strangely and not tell you what I did, but I’d love to know (hypothetically) what you all might have done …. So here goes:

    I was driving home after a week away and was about 4 hours into a 6 hour trip – mostly through very isolated country areas where pig hunting by locals and visitors is a common and regular activity. Of course with that comes ‘Pigging Dogs’. I don’t know how people feel about that – it could be a post all in itself I guess?

    So I had already closely avoided hitting 3 Roos, 1 of which really got my heart going, very very very close! I saw something on the side of the highway which I thought may have been a deer? Roo? .. couldn’t tell? I got closer and slowed right down to see a ‘Pigging Dog’ walking on the side of the highway. He had his chest plate on and was clearly covered in blood – pigging dogs will always have blood over them and their chest plates after being on the ‘hunt’. He definitely seemed to have been recently on the hunt.

    It was a bit confronting and I didn’t really know what to do? It seemed likely that he was separated from his owner … There was no one within cooee!

    What do you guys reckon? I thought it might be interesting to ask what you would do?

    Happy to be back at home with my Loles and Zep.
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    Hey SH..

    since you want our answers hypothetically, i want to answer reality also..so here goes both of my answers are just the bloody same.. & im answering as a dog lover & a farmers kid who's yet to meet a nice safe "no killer" pig dog, i know i would never trust a pig dog around any animal or child.

    IMO PIG DOGS have no place in any society, don't know who's more barbaric the owner or the dog who's cruelly been trained to kill....i would have either shot the dog or called authorities to shoot or pts dog. I would'nt even have a fooking clue if pigging dogs are on the BSL, but i think they should be as any "killer/ blood thirsty" dog regardless of its breed has no place in society.
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    If I was in an isolated area and found a dog that was obviously lost I would pick it up if I could get a lead on it. It wouldn't matter if it was a pig dog or a poodle.

    Personally I'm not into hunting pigs with dogs but there are a lot of wild pigs up here and I know a lot of pig dogs. Most are very people friendly and very few are dog aggressive as they are used to hunting with other dogs in packs. There are three pig dogs living opposite me. Two are now retired. All are much loved pets as well as working dogs. I often meet the dogs walking with their owner when I'm exercising my own dogs. Never had a problem with aggression either towards my dogs or myself. All three dogs are also very child friendly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Floyd View Post
    I would'nt even have a fooking clue if pigging dogs are on the BSL, but i think they should be as any "killer/ blood thirsty" dog regardless of its breed has no place in society.
    Not sure quite what you mean by "killer/blood thirsty" dog. Does this include blood thirsty terriers who kill rats and mice? What about blood thirsty sight hounds who kill rabbits?

    Many of the pig dogs up here are Bull Arabs. Some of the other breeds used to create hunting dogs are Pit Bulls, Staffies, Pointers, Dobes, Deerhounds, Wolfhounds, Danes etc.

    One of our neighbours has a dog who was bred for hunting but has always been a pet. She is a Wolfhound x Pit Bull. She is one of the most gentle dogs I have ever met and lives with two children and a little white fluffy.

    Years ago I adopted a middle aged Foxhound bitch who had been a "killer/blood thirsty" dog used to hunt anything that moved but mostly deer and fox. After her rescue she lived with small children, cats, pet rabbits and other dogs and was a gentle lovable pet until the day she died. Hardly a threat to society.

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    Is it not obvious what i mean by "killer/blood thirsty" dogs?????...any dog that it trained to kill any other animal should be pts as they are not trustworthy imo, as i've said in my post i've yet to meet a pig dog that i do trust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Floyd View Post
    Hey SH..

    since you want our answers hypothetically, i want to answer reality also..so here goes both of my answers are just the bloody same.. & im answering as a dog lover & a farmers kid who's yet to meet a nice safe "no killer" pig dog, i know i would never trust a pig dog around any animal or child.

    IMO PIG DOGS have no place in any society, don't know who's more barbaric the owner or the dog who's cruelly been trained to kill....i would have either shot the dog or called authorities to shoot or pts dog. I would'nt even have a fooking clue if pigging dogs are on the BSL, but i think they should be as any "killer/ blood thirsty" dog regardless of its breed has no place in society.


    Hey there! Whoa up!
    No. 'pigging dogs' are do not come under BSL.
    'pigging dogs ' is not a 'breed'.

    The Bull Arab is the most commonly used dog for hunting , they are often linebred ,following down good hunters,be it luggers or worriers,trackers etc.
    Most hunters take damned fine care of thier animals and the dogs are usually suitably attired and protected from harm with purpuse built chest plates/neck/armour etc.

    They are often a family dog as well as a 'pigger'.



    Now,had it been me.
    I would of stopped and carefuly seen if I was going to get a negative reaction before getting too close ( or too from car) NOt because these dogs are blood thirsty killing machines,but because maybe the dog was hurt/in shock,any animal will have an adverse reaction when in this condition .

    If it appeared I could approach the dog,I would do so.Firstly looking for obvious open wounds that may need stemming etc.
    I would then do a pretty thorough scan of the area seeing if there were any dirt roads/tracks leading off,if there were any utes etc coming in from afar through paddocks etc ( likely to be the dogs owners).

    If it looked like no-one in sight and seemed dog had travelled some miles already ( check the status of dogs paws to begin with) I would take the dog with me to the nearest property ( most hunters do so on property they have already gained usually thankful permission from ) and ask some usual questions.

    If this gets me nowhere then the next nearest town will find me looking for the local vet/pound etc

    I have known many,many hunting dogs,I havn't met a blood thirsty killer yet?
    Yes they are trained to go after wild pig.
    Not children.not dogs.They hunt in a pack,be no good if they were trying to attack each other.

    I find that response Floyd quite a bit dramatic and media sensitive.Have you perhaps had a bad encounter with a hunting dog?
    And this is not to say that there arn't bad ones amongst them,there undoubtedly are.But due to human error,not dog.Just as any breed of dog.
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    Sounds to me like any other working dog. It has a job to do, it's trained to do it, finishes it's working day is a family pet again. Not what I would do but everyone's diff.
    I know that the Bull Arab breed was developed specifically for this, but other breeds/cross breeds are used.
    Just as long as the dogs are looked after, treated well and loved...
    In re. to the question being asked well...I'm sure I'd call the dog over and try and get a better look at it through the window, if it wasn't agro ( some would be just like with any dog).. i'd stick my hand out for him to sniff and make my way out of the car. From there...not sure...take it to the nearest property, vet. To me it sounds like he was walking home from work and does it all the time.

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    [QUOTE=Deerhound;14114]Not sure quite what you mean by "killer/blood thirsty" dog. Does this include blood thirsty terriers who kill rats and mice? What about blood thirsty sight hounds who kill rabbits?

    I know my beloved breed has terrier hunting skills bred into them, i don't nor will i ever encourage any of my SBT'S to kill or hunt for rabbits or other animals.

    I don't believe that a dog should ever be used / trained as a hunter or a killing machine.

    IMO when animals kill / attack for survival, then that's acceptable, i do believe in "the circle of life" when it comes to nature being its self.

    But i find it totally unacceptable & bloody barbaric when mankind trains any type animal to kill any other animal, its all in the name of mans cruel blood thirsty barbaric entertainment, how would you like to be set upon by a pack of dogs & die a slow painful death, while the dogs master watches on & encourages them to rip you to shreds

    I don't support nor will i ever support mankind's sick fooking game to hunt / kill animals for entertainment eg, whaling, seal clubbing, dolphin slaughter, halal slaughtered meat, dog fights, horse fights, cock fights, bear fights, bull fights, hacking of fins of live sharks etc...

    There's a much more humane way of controlling / culling the numbers of animals or kill for meat & its called a bullet- quick painless death... So dont want to hear the fooking excuse that pig dogs are doing mankind a favor by being used to control the pig numbers.

    Just wonder how many innocent native animals are also cruelly killed by theses pig dogs when they are wondering about etc.

    As as for media sensitive...what about the images of pig dogs covered in blood, now that wouldn't look nice for dog breeds or give the general public faith or trust in such dogs..it sure gives me & other ppl that i know-the impression that pig dogs & hunting dogs are nothing more than human trained killing machines.
    Last edited by Aussie Floyd; 08-04-2009 at 01:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Floyd View Post

    As as for media sensitive...what about the images of pig dogs covered in blood, now that wouldn't look nice for dog breeds or give the general public faith or trust in such dogs..it sure gives me & other ppl that i know-the impression that pig dogs are nothing more than killing machines.

    And it is statements exactly as this ,the reason we have BSL today

    Not enough time nor energy to reply fully to this right now...will try to put up a calm response a little later.


    Edited to fix quote and to add - for one who professes to love the Stafford so very much ,you are coming across as a very intolerable type of person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    And it is statements exactly as this ,the reason we have BSL today

    Not enough time nor energy to reply fully to this right now...will try to put up a calm response a little later.


    Edited to fix quote and to add - for one who professes to love the Stafford so very much ,you are coming across as a very intolerable type of person.
    Yes i do love the Stafford very much, i live for my Stafford's ..& its certain images of my beloved breed being portrayed as or used as pig dogs that gets me very angry, don't think the idiot pig dog owners realize what negative damage they are doing to certain dog breeds....like i said when ppl see) including me) images of hunting dogs covered in blood- they think the dog is nothing more than a killer.

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