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    Default Understanding cries for help - Belgian Malinois at Crufts 2015

    I'm not sure if any of you guys have been following Crufts this year... but I have been (wasting all my internet data -_- )

    I don't watch all the showing, but I do enjoy seeing all the breeds in each group enter the ring to be judged for best in group.

    When it came to the Belgian Malinois to be checked over by the judge, the poor dog was extrmely uncomfortable and stressed, but they just kept pushing it

    Found this video giving a breakdown of the situation... poor dog!


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    Crufts has been a bit of a mixed bag for me. Of disasters - poisoned Irish Setter, and of good things - Derrett wins in agility again...

    And a Peta Animal Rights protest. How did they get in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    And a Peta Animal Rights protest. How did they get in?
    I didn't hear about that!! Gee whiz :/

    And the whole deal with the Irish setter is just awful... apparently a few more dogs have come down ill... not sure how accurate that info is though.

    There was also a bit of controversy over the way the best in show dog was handled... a little Scottish Terrier. His owner picked him up by putting one hand under his neck and the other hand grabbing his tail!

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    Most terriers were made to be handled by the tail - hence the traditional docking of a lot of the earthing breeds as not super short but long enough to get a hand around. You could pull the dogs from holes by their tail. It's also why a lot of terriers have very meaty tails in proportion to their bodies.

    As for show malinois ... don't get me started. The divide thankfully does not exist too much here in Australia but that dogs temperament was horrific for the breed. That is very very far out of standard.
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    I cant imagine a malinois as a show dog. It is so not how I think of them, mind you that goes for dogs like kelpies as well. Thank goodness they havent got their hands on Koolies yet.

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    The most bizarre thing about the Mal was the guy parading it was already sporting a rosette which I'm guessing means they'd already won something - that and the mix of breeds in the ring at the time suggests that the Mal was the best Mal in it's class at the show - which is shocking given how much it clearly hated being there.

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    Yep - felt very uncomfortable watching that video. The messages that were being sent were completely missed by the handler and the judge.

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    The video has been taken down now because of copyright issues :/

    I'm pretty sure the dog would have won best of breed to get to best of group... I don't know how on earth that dog won best of breed... None of the mals there must have been very good :/

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    That is the standard for the show Malinois. They are very far removed from what you see as a working type. Saying that if you look at the 'standard' most working Mals will fall out of it.

    The ideal height at withers is on average -
    62 cm for males
    58 cm for females
    Limits: 2cm less, 4 cm more.

    Weight:
    Males about 25-30kg
    Females about 20-25kg

    Measurements: Average normal measures for an adult male Belgian Shepherd Dog of 62 cm at the withers:
    Length of body (from point of shoulder to point of buttock) 62 cm
    Length of head 25cm
    Length of muzzle 12.5-13cm
    My bitches weight just under 30kg and my male is just over 40kg. MMmmmhm.

    Ears should be small... um ...
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    (oddly despite his size and reverse mask he was still awarded BOB 2 days in a row)

    Colour - only fawn with black overlay and black mask ... ummmm .. someone better tell Rogue that white splodge on her chest makes her a fail apparently lol
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    The Malinois has mostly been bred on workability. The dogs were not bred when they were just old enough it was pass your tests, do your work and then breed. If you look at pedigree database, the age gap between parents and progeny is way more then a year or two. Because the dogs had to prove their worth not just exist. It's why HD/ED in most old working lines is unheard of... in some modern mals though name your disease...
    http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/Mali_nut/K9LOGO.jpg

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    WoW 'Nekhbet' - you have joined the dark side of the show dog world !

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    Congratulations and what a way to make a statement - 2 BOBs ! Keep that up and it won't be long before the pup is titled !

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