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    Hi Guys,

    My 6 yo Dobermann has been diagnosed with Ostesarcoma and one of the options is to get her hind leg amputated at the shoulder. just wondering if anyone has had this done and what the cost was? My first price has been quoted at 4-5K, wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience.

    Also if anyone knows a good surgery in Perth please pass the details through.

    Many thanks,

    AM

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    hi AM

    That's so sad. We've got a couple of contributors from WA so hopefully they will come and recommend someone.

    These I've seen recommended for general vet services - not specifically an amputation.

    The price does seem in the ball park tho a little high - which - I'd just rate as a Perth thing. rent, real estate, people, food - everything there is just more expensive. But with major surgery it does pay to ask for recommendations and shop around. I don't think there is a schedule of fees so vets can charge what they like to cover costs and make profit margin. Eg if their practice is in a high rent/rate area or they have lots of staff or equipment - they will probably charge more.

    I guess it depends on what you or your dog is comfortable with. From this list - I think I'd ask the Uni first and then ask them if they recommend a specialist or if it's something they do regularily or I'd be asking some of the other guys if they have specialists in this (orthopaedics and cancer).

    Dr Rodney Sundra from Morley Vet Centre.

    Ocean Keys Vet Clinic in Clarkson.

    Clive Lamond at Ocean Reef Vet (in Heathridge).

    Greg Wilkinson at Subiaco Vet Hospital.

    Dr Gavin or Dr Nick at St Francis on Main Street

    Murdoch Uni Veterinary hospital.

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    Perth veterinary specialists. They are specialists in surgery - I have used Dr Tim Caporn for orthopeadic surgery and they also have a really good oncologist Dr Ken Wyatt. They are who I use anyway.

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    I'm very sorry to hear your girl has Osteosarcoma...a very painful cancer. If she was my dog...the kindest thing to do would be to put her to sleep as the treatment ie leg removal...chemo etc will give her a few more months...less than 12 mths.

    I know this is not what you want to hear but it's fact and your vet and oncologist know what the outcome will be...big fat wallets for them and you have no dog. There is no cure for this cancer and the two other types of cancer that took both my girls...you might want to Google Osteosarcoma in Dogs to give you an idea of what this cancer is and the outcome.
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    Just one more thing...for something as serious as cancer I would get a second opinion just to be sure.

    A few years ago my GSD Rex had a cough...took him to the vet and saw a new young vet who said "given his age and breed he has lung cancer". He said has Rex been sick I said no apart from his cough...so Rex was given meds and I was told to bring him back in one week for x-rays.

    Went back a week later...Rex still had the cough and saw a different vet who said "we won't x-ray him yet...I'll give him more meds and come back in two weeks". I didn't go back as Rex stopped coughing a week later...seems he didn't have cancer after all.

    Nearly four years ago I took Rex to the vet for his C5...vet said "I can feel a tumor" so Rex was x-rayed and yes it looked like a tumor the vet said. The vet said given his age and breed he was 80% sure it was cancer but an ultrasound would confirm it. I had just lost Tara to cancer a few months before...so I didn't have the ultrasound done.

    After several days I rang the vet and booked Rex in for an ultrasound as I wanted to know how much time Rex had left. Poor Rex was at the vets all day and at 5 o'clock I get a phone call to say the tumor is gone...seems Rex didn't have cancer after all and the other thing that was gone was my $450 too.
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    I think Dr Ken Wyatt is a very good oncologist. He treated my mothers dog when she had a soft tissue sarcoma and he gave all the options from doing nothing to surgery and chemo, surgery without chemo etc. He was pretty spot on and he has treated a number of the agility dogs and certainly the feedback has been good. Osteo certainly doesnt have the best outcome if it has already spread, which is why a good professional opinion on all the options is a good thing.

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    The best in the business in Perth and they onely one who I would allow to do this surgery if it was my dog is Dr Tm Caporn from Perth Vet Specialists. The oncologist Dr Ken Wyatt is in the same premises and he is Perths only oncologist. He treated my Frodo and he survived cancer 4.5 years under Dr Wyatt. He passed last Easter due to vinca poisoning and it broke my heart as Frodo was the inspiration to my website.

    Hope that helps. There is plenty of information on osteosarcoma on my website,information on amputation on the treatment page from Dr Ram who is Perths Surgical Oncologist also at PVS, info from others on our forum. You can also post any questions there for the oncologists to answer. Any other info I can help you with let me know. Also Perth is invoved in a trial for osteosarcoma as this disease often spreads to the lungs and the drug they are trialing Auranofin is hopefully to prevent the spread to the lungs. Ken is running that trial and is the only one in Perth doing so.
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    In response to Dogman's post regarding the misdiagnosis she has received from vets previously. The amount of times I have heard similar stories of people being told their dogs have cancer. The "given the age and breed remark from vets" with no pathology done, no radiology and then the worst bit of all the owner has been handed chemotherapy without this being done. Cancer and chemo is very specificly catered to the type, stage and grade not just an over the counter pill and go home. If you ask questioms of people who say what a horror time their dogs have had on chemo and they would never do it again, in my experience talking to hundreds of people and asking questions when I hear these horror stories, I have not come across one person who used and oncologist, had pathology and radiology or if they did corners were cut Every horror story has ALWAYS been where the correct testing was not done. Of this group of people not one person has ever been able to tell me what type of cancer their dog had. It has been a reference to liver cancer or kidney cancer and "this is what the vet said" How many of these dogs did not have cancer at all as Dogman experienced?

    I disagree that it is a money related grab by vets. I am sure there probably are vets out there who like to grab as much money as they can, this is a fact of life in any field or industry. The majority do their best for their patients with the knowledge they have. The biggest problem is that the primary vet is not an expert in just cancer. They have knowledge of so many illnesses that they treat dogs for. It is unrealistic for dog owners to think the primary vet has the experience in cancer that an oncologist has. You will ALWAYS get better results for a dog with cancer if you use an oncologist. The frustrating part for me is that vets are not telling this to dog owners and suggesting referrals (which is cost prohibitive to some people). Dog owners build a trust with their primary vet over time and due to this trust they believe what the vet tells them and not enough questions are asked. They should be telling dog owners outright they dont have the "experience" of an oncologist to treat cancer. At least the owner has the facts and can decide from there what they think is best for their dog given all the facts. Vets that are not honest and doing this and that give the trusting owner the impresion they are right up on it are the ones I would be thinking are not putting the best interests of the dog first. That is the only thing that matters. Are these the vets that are in it for the money I ask myself?

    One other comment Dogman. Yes osteosarcoma is a bad cancer to get. The reason you amputate the leg is to stop the pain. Like any surgery the pain is gone once the surgery site heals. A dog will be minus the pain after amputation. Most dogs including big dogs cope well very well quickly after amputation and life goes back to their "normal" prior to amputation. They adapt well. The reason some dogs dont live a long time after diagnosis is because they are claimed by the spread to the lungs. Dogs do live for years very well after treatment and a sweeping statement like "lining the wallets and they only live.................." is not cocrrect in fact. Like any cancer you never know what the outcome will be and how long you might have. My Frodo probably only had a 30% chance of surival and he went 4.5yrs and died from a non related cancer accident. He had a great quality of life and that is the key. You want your dog to have a good quality of life for as long as possible.

    Here is the link to Osteosarcoma
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    frodofromaus,

    So you are saying what I said is not true...your own link gives a very poor outcome for this cancer. Dogs with this cancer even with all the treatment don't live very long...you can Google that too...or maybe other Oncologists around the world got it wrong. You see everyone has a choice and can decide for themselves what is best and to ask people who are not trying to sell them something what they did...if people go for the treatment then loose their dog...it's their choice.

    You say dogs can live for years after treatment...lets see some proof of this...and lets see the total costs involved for this treatment too...all to keep the dog alive for a few more months...poor dog.

    Oncologists know exactly how long the dogs has within a few months with this cancer as they've seen many dogs with it...until a cure is found for these cancers I would not put my dog through this even if it were free and I doubt that will ever happen either.
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    This is why a professional opinion from an oncologist is important. Then you can make the decision for your dog based on what you know about your dog and its ability to recover. I have had 2 friends choose to go with the surgery and their dogs recovered quickly and they were quickly mobile again. One survived another 6 months without chemo and had a very good quality of life right to the end. As soon as he showed signs of not enjoying life he was euthanaised. The other lived I think for about another 9 months and also was enjoying life and did pretty well. Depending on how advanced the cancer is the life expectancy could be much shorter, which is why having all the facts about your dog is important.

    So the prognosis is not so good if the cancer has spread but the surgery relieves the pain and it costs. I think it would be equally valid decision to euthanaise the dog. For me it would depend on age, mobility, financial implications and other factors.

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