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    Default Serena is fat

    Hello,

    an update after a long time. As I have written some time ago, Serena has become dog aggressive and is now relegated 100% of the time on the lead. Despite this, I still walk her every day, either down the beach of park. Bruno is well behaved and reliable so he gets to be off lead in the appropriate.

    What I have noticed quite obviously, is that Serena has put on weight ever since she has been restricted to the lead. She walks on a long lead so is free to run ahead a little id she likes. But mostly she is happy to 'waddle' next to me.

    her diet consists of a cup of dry food (at the moment its Advanced - they both seem to do well on it) and some ligtly bbq beef steaks, horse steaks kangaroo steaks depending on what is available. Normally I give her about 1 steak about human palm size. sometimes they get marrow bones and chicken frames.

    Because of the extra weight, I can observed that Serena walks slower, is less active in the yard and she seems a bit stiff as she walks also. Its sad really, because the old Serena running free at the beach or dog park was a lovely sight to behold.

    I haven't taken her to the vet as yet but may do so when our finances allow. In the meantime, what else can I do to help her reduce weight? Should I restrict her diet just to a cup of dried biscuits a day, and that's it?

    She is still a happy and lovely girl but I think that she would be more comfortable with less weight on.

    Any help appreciated

    Cheers

    Adrian

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    Feed her half of what shes getting now. One main meal in the morning and a morsal at night.
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    A friend whose dog is on advance has made a big difference by just swapping to 'advance weight control'.

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    I think I fed my dog about half what Advance recommended for her target (then actual weight). What they say on the pack is too much - so you have to cut it back - especially if she's getting less exercise.

    you might also want to get the book "control unleashed" and try the "look at that" and BAT - behaviour adjustment training - systems - to help her dog reactivity.

    With my dog I have to be really careful not to get back chaining - which happens very fast if I use food treats - pat and praise is enough.

    Eg this morning we were at the beach and there was a big flock of galahs eating seed in the grass along the beach side of the dunes... and evil hound thought it would be fun to chase them a bit - make them take off. I called her back, she came - woot. I gave her a treat - mistake. Because - she immediately connected - chase galahs - do recall - get treat. Ie I need a reason to recall - she was going to give me one...cos recalls mean treats. ARGH. Less than impressed when I put her on lead the second time.

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    Evil hound is clearly very smart

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    Ahhhhh... that is what happens when I used a treat to keep Maggie from pulling. When she walked with a loose lead I gave her a treat so she pulled to get called to get the treat! Bloody border collies train you faster than you can train them. I have been doing some work with a behaviourist who uses relationship rather than treats. It is much better for us

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    I so get you Farrview.

    Met a kelpie puppy about 1 yo - who is clearly much much better at training her family than they are at training her. I think they may have even given up. And the Dad is keen on Cesar Milan - had to explain to him why that's a bad idea.

    I said imagine I was trying to teach you how to spell a word correctly - and I didn't tell you how to spell it - I just hit you with a ruler each time you got it wrong... would that help you spell the word right? And if you're made to work out of fear - what would you do the first opportunity you had to run away or attack?

    I showed the family "collar grab" - sometimes when I do that to Frosty - she rolls over of her own accord but she didn't this time... so couldn't show how an "alpha roll" really works but I did it with the kelpie - when she was barking - you know that high pitched excited bark (she wanted to my dog to play or to help dig a hole - not sure). I collar grabbed the kelpie and as soon as she stopped barking - I let her go. She barked again, I grabbed and held for a bit - look no shoving her on the ground - just hold her back from the fun.. when she stops barking - reward with release to the fun... and then my dog and the kelpie had a very fun play.

    Unusual for my dog these days but once the kelpie was showing a bit more manners - thanks to the collar grab ... my dog was willing to play.

    I did tell the family they need to practice the collar grab and pair it with things the dog likes... eg food or tug or chase or something... And I told them - every hard thing Frosty knows - she learned with her dinner as the distraction. Current job - recalling away from her dinner, then past it...
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    I have halved Serena's food intake with only a 1/2 to 1 cup of Advance biscuits in the morning and one or two chicken necks. Am I being too draconian? I feel bad limiting her diet although logically I know it will be very good for her to come back to a healthy weight.

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    If she looks at you with those big brown eyes, you can give her a carrot to eat. If she won't eat it, try taking a bite out of it yourself before you hand it over. If she still won't eat it, you can console yourself with the idea that she's not really hungry.

    Carrots won't put the weight on a dog (or a human) - so long as you do your own chewing - ie no juicer blender for your food.

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