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    Hi all,

    We are moving overseas in a couple of months and we are taking our dogs with us (much to the disgust of some family members) but I am concerned about the one girl because she has massive anxiety, she wont walk through half opened doors or wont even run through the garage unless there is a clear path...

    Question one is, would we be better off trying to sedate them for the flight so they (she) doesnt freak out the entire way or do you think she will be fine once she is in her travel 'box'?

    Question two, I have received 2 quotes and there is a 2 thousand dollar difference in price, the companies are Petflyers | Domestic and international pet transportation and https://www.jetpets.com.au/ both offer the same things as far as I can tell but I feel like I am missing something if there is such a price difference, any experience with any of them?

    Question 3, our dogs are pretty large but they are very spoiled and sleep inside on the lounge so I am wondering if something like this snooza orthobed large would be a good idea to get them used to over the next few weeks so they have something comforting on the flight or do you think they will just adapt?

    I know its only a 24 hour ordeal but I worry that Roxy (with the massive anxiety issues) will freak out if we dont prep her for it.

    Thanks for your help!!

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    Sorry can't be of any help but am quite interested in answers too as this may come up for us at some point as well. And we too have a big chicken. Just interested where you are going, i.e. how long the flight is going to be and what the quarantine rules are.

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    Hi Shaneo

    Sedation might seem like a good idea but imagine you were going through some terrifying experience but you were too groggy to be actually able to do anything about it - your body just refused to co-operate.

    Would you feel good about that or even more freaked out than normal?

    Most dogs finish up completely broken nervous wrecks if they get sedated on flights and sometimes they die because they can't do normal doggy things like have a drink of water or move into the shade. Most responsible airlines these days will refuse to take a sedated dog.

    I've heard of jet pets but not the other mob. I suspect you get what you pay for. Haven't flown my dog anywhere so i don't know.

    The main thing you want to do is make sure your dog is flying in spring autumn, when there is the least chance of extreme weather anywhere.

    Any nice bed you provide either dog with, is likely to be torn to shreds. But they would probably like a bed that smells like you or their favourite human.

    What you might want to do now is crate train them to sleep in a suitable crate - to love being in crate, to feel ok about eating and drinking in a crate, and not to bark their heads off in the crate - either when you're around or when you're not.

    Mine tends to be quiet in her crate when she doesn't know where I am but bark her head off when she can see me... so we play a game where - if she barks - I leave her perception (sight, hearing) until she's quiet...

    And once you've got the dogs thrilled about being in the crates (you will need separate crates), then you take them and their crates somewhere you can hear planes taking off and landing... and pratice your crate games there. Start off where the dogs can hear the planes and still be calm and gradually work as close as you can get without getting into trouble with security.

    See if you can get this dvd - this particular website is in QLD but there might be someoone local to you that supplies it (look up agility clubs in your area and ask them)
    Susan Garrett's Crate Games

    It's the fastest way I know to get a dog thrilled about being in a crate. Even my slow learner had it down inside about 30 mins. Some dogs take a bit longer but most are about that or quicker.

    Some (sneaky dogs) are all fine as long as you don't shut the door to the crate - but I don't think that's going to be ok at an airport... so you do need to get from crate door open - to crate door shut for hours, even with people around.

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    PS - depending where you go - you might not be able to take the dog back - eg you cannot bring a dog back directly from China. You can from the UK.

    Not sure about the USA. Quarantine would be able to advise. Sometimes you can bring a dog back via somewhere else (for six months).

    So if you're not completely committed for the life time of the dog - or you haven't lived there before - you might want to delay taking the dogs until you've got your home over there sorted, and are really sure you're staying.

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    Hi margoo,

    We are flying to the States and the flight itself is about 19 hours so its not overly long for us but I am sure they will think differently. As far as quarantine goes, moving to the States is pretty simple and the only thing we have to do is keep our dogs in our yard for 30 days after they arrive and then they are considered 'safe'

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    Yea Hyacinth I have been told that sedation isnt recommended by airlines (the transport people also said no to it) but I was a little worried about her having a heart attack without it because she really does freak out, although she doesnt when we are out riding mountain bikes etc. its only small spaces...

    We are flying in March so thats autumn I guess and coming into spring in the States.

    I am thinking if I purchase one of those beds and then pop a worn shirt of mine in the crate then hopefully that will provide some comfort.

    I am getting the crates next week so hopefully I will be able to get them used to eating etc. while being in them, but I think its going to take more than half an hour for Roxy, she honestly has massive issues, Layla (the other one) will do anything so I am not worried about her.

    We are moving permanently to America so have no intention of bringing them back to Australia at this stage but I have had friends bring animals over from there and the animals really struggled with being in quarantine for as long as they need to be over here.

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    A lot of anxious dogs find a den like space eg a covered crate - a very comforting place to be.

    And a lot of dogs will follow another dog who leads the way - eg if they see another dog be happy in the crate and find goodies in there - they get more comfortable with the idea.

    This is a soft sided crate - not suitable for air travel but you can see how much the dogs love it. There's food and other dogs to play with outside but they want to be in the crate. And it's Frosty's blue crate not the bull terrier's but you can't keep either of them out of a crate unless you shut the doors.

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    I pick the crates up on Wednesday next week so I will let you know how they go

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    Very cute Bull Terrier Hyacinth!

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    These are my two girls, the one on the right when looking at the pic is Roxy and she has the issues.

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