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    Quote Originally Posted by mymatejack View Post
    The dog has been in one fight and for all anyone knows he may have been simply defending himself from the other dog ... I think you're over reacting
    Oh ok. So just continue to allow the dog to run off-lead with strange dogs when it doesn't have a reliable recall and wait for further incidents? This is exactly what the owners of the staffies that attacked my dog were doing. It's not fair. If you think there is any chance that your dog will try to harm another, and more importantly, if your dog happens to be powerful enough to kill other animals, you can't take that risk.

    Why wouldn't you assess the dog first? Do some training before you just 'wing it' and see how it goes. This dog has been in a fight and killed other animals. On top of that, it's a staffy and call me 'breedist' but that is the number one breed likely and capable of killing other dogs. Think of the other dogs this dog could encounter. Think of being an owner of a dog that has badly hurt or killed another person's dog. As far as I'm concerned, even if there's only a small risk the potential consequences are too great for there to be any risk.

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    mymatejack

    99bottles' dog is routinely attacked by any off lead staffy that spots it. So she's got good reason to over-react.

    Personally - I think you need to be really careful with the big dogs that have shown aggression - because they can do so much damage so quickly but I also think you need to judge each one on its merits.

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    I'm sorry but that's just nonsense. Any off lead staffy just attacks 99bottles dog? That's hysterical nonsense!
    Nope - that's just what her experience has been. Hasn't had the good fortune to meet any nice staffies - only nasty ones - the ones owned by **** head people who will let them run off lead in designated on lead parks.

    Telling us that what her experience has been is "hysterical nonsense" is a bit like me saying you never owned a staffie. Or that your experiences that are different to mine are figments of your imagination.

    She has her experience and her opinion and you have yours - neither of you are wrong or right about each other's life.

    And I don't think 99bottles is petrified of anything. Well maybe that her dog would have to kill to defend itself but that's about it. I've met her and her dog and while I don't always agree with her opinions, I've never met a better behaved dobe cross than hers.

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    You might be right MMJ, unfortunately Brendan has not come back to tell us.

    Just made my wife panic, spose he would have picked that up to
    There is a bit of "subtext" around that bit of information and the words
    showing aggressive behaviour towards other dogs
    That's dogs plural. Not just one dog. To the point where Brendan OP doesn't feel ok to let his dog off lead at the off lead beach any more.

    So there might have been only one actual fight that nobody saw but it seems like now this dog is barking and lunging in an aggressive scary way at every dog it sees.

    So if it was just one dog fight over a dead possum and the dog didn't show any different behaviour otherwise - I don't think Brendan would have posted here and 99Bottles would not be so concerned.

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    Hi guys sorry for the long delay, I have since taken Neo to the beach for a walk. We have been cautious so on lead at the moment. Am training him to sit down beside me if he starts to show agitation. Rewarding him with big scratches and pats.allowing him to adventure towards other dogs when they seem friendly and allowing him to sniff and play. There is still a couple of dogs he has issues with but in saying that their reactions are definitely not like they want to play. He hasn't been aggressive towards any people or other dogs in the street.... He's learning but he is going through adolescents and after getting hold of the possum, he has relised that if something comes into his territory that isn't normally there he'll sort it. Great breed of dog and worrying about it alot less now. Thanks for the feed back guy

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    Thank you Brendan...

    You've cleared things up a little bit for us.

    With practice - you can usually spot the dogs that you need to stay away from before your dog does... For me - it's the ones on lead, or pulling on lead or walking stiffly and upright with the fixed stare (but not a herding breed but even some herders do this before attacking)... The dogs that don't look calm and relaxed.

    A good thing to do when you are at an off lead park is to catch and release your dog many times - aim for at least 5 to 10 times while you're there so the dog doesn't equate being caught with the end of the fun.

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    Just wanted to add, I have met nice staffies. I'd count among my friends a couple of people who train with them and who would accept no other breed. I love seeing staffies that are understood and properly cared for by their owners, people who genuinely care about their dogs and who would do everything to keep them out of trouble and dangerous situations.

    But I am scared of staffies I don't know, that is true. I'm not going to lie about it. I think they're one of the worst (if not the worst) breeds in the hands of a bad owner and frankly, I'm not impressed with most dog owners. Add the fact that they're the most popular breed and maybe you can understand my position. My experience is that most dog owners don't really understand or manage their dogs properly and staffies are super popular. Unfortunately, when things go wrong with a staffy, you can end up with a dead dog. I live next door to an aggressive kelpie. But I'm not scared of it because it's a kelpie. It can't seriously hurt me or my dog even if it really tried. A staffy could kill both of us and sadly there are lots of incidents of this happening to people and their dogs.

    When my dog is attacked by a staffy I experience complete terror because there is no other breed that can take them in a fight. So I'm there with my dog knowing that he will only survive the encounter if others are there to intervene.

    So I should correct myself though. I'm really afraid of bad owners. Bad staffies are just one of the repercussions of bad owners and unfortunately, the worst owners seem to want to own staffies.

    Refreshing to hear that Brendan is making the effort.

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