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    I have received some additional information from van in following the supplied programme for 6 - 8 weeks which will be a helpful guide for me. Shelby has been more settled the last day or so with less scratching, licking and scooting so a good sign and I hope it continues. Unfortunately potatoes are not good with her but orange sweet potato has been excellent. When I take her to the vet for her yearly check up soon I will ask about blood testing to check her lipids etc

    I'm quite sure that part of the issue is garden related with grass, plants and will enquire also about testing for this.

    Kalacreek knowing that schnauzers are prone to pancreatitis and she has always been sensitive to fat I try to keep the fat level in her diet low which is a problem when some fat is needed to assist with skin issues. What a huge learning curve. If nothing else I want to sort it for her health and comfort.

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    You may need a refferal to a specialist dermatologist vet. That is who I saw for the allergy testing. There are also some vets who specialise in diets. A friend of mine was having problems with his retriever and saw such a vet at Murdoch university and he was happy with the results and the diet. It wasnt one of the vet prescription diets I think he had to make it up for his dog from memory, so a bit of effort required.

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    Brian has allergies, i did heaps of research.
    Main culprits are diet: beef, chicken famous for it. Environment: put a blanket down.

    Treatments that cost jack shit:
    calendula tea mix as suggested
    Oregano sprinkled into food
    Avoid trigger: plant, flea, wheat, beef, chicken
    Aloe vera direct from plant to dog, to prevent dog irritating the irritation (sore hot spots)
    Apple cider vinegar in water supply of dog
    Apple cider vinegar in a wate
    r/vinegar mist spray, allow to air dry.
    Oil in diet increase. Omega in tin fish is great

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    Its that time of year again, when Brian begins to errupt with his allergic issues.
    Spring going into summer and autum.
    We manage it as above, every year as im sure you will too

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    I think the pancreatitis issue is worth doing some research on and reducing the risk. Once it takes hold for my mums dog it was all down hill.

    As to allergies I have tended to avoid chicken for various reasons and prefer lamb or fish based products
    Last edited by Kalacreek; 10-18-2014 at 01:01 PM.

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    Thanks for the input everyone. I have given chicken occasionally including chicken wings as previously stated. What bones could she have? Did not do too well on lamb neck. Are dried roo tendons, I think thats what it is, any good or should I just skip bones? Trouble is aren't they good for the teeth?

    Bernie (and all others who have offered suggestions) I will certainly try your remedies.

    I have a friend whose poodle cross developed pancreatitis after getting into a whole bbq chicken. Went on to live a long life (12 or 13) despite occasional flare up. I certainly hope to avoid that but with a breed prone to the condition I am concerned and give a low fat diet. I saw dried lamb tripe at a pet supplier which has been mentioned by van as good but had something like 28 % fat. Anybody know what a reasonable % of fat would be for a pancreatitis prone breed?

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    I sometimes give my dog dried roo jerky. Not quite the same as tendons. As long as it's not smoked or oven dried bones - or roo tail, probably ok.

    Not sure about roo and pancreatitus. It is an extremely low fat meat tho. Probably doesn't do lubrication of the joints any good. Need some fats and oils for that. I think.

    You'd have to ask a vet about the fat %. My grandmother - got pancreatic cancer, and for her it was zero fat. Tho we occasionally cheated and used a bit of olive oil in cooking. And she'd cheat and eat the occasional chocolate truffle - had to be a really good hand made one. She was very dedicated about it and lived longer than most pancreatic cancer sufferers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schnautz View Post
    Thanks for the input everyone. I have given chicken occasionally including chicken wings as previously stated. What bones could she have? Did not do too well on lamb neck. Are dried roo tendons, I think thats what it is, any good or should I just skip bones? Trouble is aren't they good for the teeth?

    Bernie (and all others who have offered suggestions) I will certainly try your remedies.

    I have a friend whose poodle cross developed pancreatitis after getting into a whole bbq chicken. Went on to live a long life (12 or 13) despite occasional flare up. I certainly hope to avoid that but with a breed prone to the condition I am concerned and give a low fat diet. I saw dried lamb tripe at a pet supplier which has been mentioned by van as good but had something like 28 % fat. Anybody know what a reasonable % of fat would be for a pancreatitis prone breed?
    I wouldnt say a long life for a poodle is 12 to 13 and certainly the shortest life of my mums dogs. Most of my dogs have lived till 15/17 which is what I hope for them. My Mums poodle cross had to be euthaniased at 13 because of the pain and illness from the pancreatitis and diabetes, it was very unpleasant for the dog. This left her wondering if she had realised and dealt with it when the dog was younger if she would have lived longer.

    I would personally get profesional advice about diet if pancreatitis is a risk.
    Last edited by Kalacreek; 10-19-2014 at 09:21 AM.

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    Hi

    Thought I would give an update on how we are going with the allergies. (Not sure how to change the heading or if that's possible)
    The schnauzer has done well on the vets all natural. There is less itching and scratching though not completely gone.
    At a recent vet check up the anal glands were better but still needed some cleaning. We have been on the new diet about 6 weeks. As she has allergies the vet has given an anti histamine shot before her vaccinations. This has helped previously to reduce any reactions but not this time. Poor dog had a temperature and was miserable for 24 hours.
    The family reckons the dog is hungry and she had lost a little weight as tested at the vets. I am having trouble being sure I am getting enough food in her especially as the vets all natural mix is only 55 grams a day. I am feeding 150 grams of meat plus vegies.
    I am now going to try nutro natural choice and am using the fish and rice mix so will see how we go. Just don't want her to lose more weight and I will continue to give raw beef/kangaroo and vegies. Also on the vets all natural I add the skin powder mix and her coat and skin is dry and the worse she has ever been. So it seems I get a better result on some things and change others.

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    If the dog is not going to boarding kennels skip yearly vaccinations. The AVA only recommends them every 3 years after the puppy shots and 12 months booster so for a dog already having problems with the immune system I would give up yearlys.
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