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Thread: So I'm in a bit of a pickle........

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    Unhappy So I'm in a bit of a pickle........

    Ok a bit of background: My Kelpie cross Rottie is a rescue and he is not so good with meeting new dogs, but is 100% fine with the few he does know. He wears a muzzle when we are at the park (and on walks) its one of those muzzles like a greyhound one , he can still drink and pant and bark but can't bite anyone. And he's pretty good.

    So today im at the park (my regular park where everyone knows everyone and we often meet) and a ranger comes up to the park - really friendly guy he was super nice about everything. And he asked who (my dogs) belong to, I said happily 'me' .

    He then tells me 3 weeks ago my Kelpie bit a dog and its owner THROUGH his muzzle. Now the only way to get bitten through his muzzle is if you put your fingers through it. And the dog his ear was bitten and again he cannot bite through it I tested it you would have to feed through the ear of the dog into the muzzle. Now apparently the owner was not actually bitten as she first suggested merely scratched and bruised. (this seems a bit suss)

    Now I have no recollection of this event because I would have jumped in to help anyway I can, I would be the first to agree if I saw him do anything like this and offer help right away (pay for any bills etc) But even if this happened and I somehow forgot the lady never approached me to say 'Hey your dog just bit my dog and me' And even though he wears a muzzle im very conscious of where he is and the dogs around him.

    The ranger was super nice he asked if I would be o to meet with the owner and have a discussion and of course I said yes, I would love to sort this out, because if my dog did do something I need to know and help anyway I can.

    And my dog trainer also said it would be impossible for him to bite a dog with the muzzle.

    I guess I need to rant is all as there is nothing I can do until this meeting.

    But thanks for reading guys.
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    This sounds extremely strange. What information has the ranger given you ?

    A meeting ? That is not the way things are done as far as I am concerned.

    Please get more information - like time/day and so on. If this park is where you go regularly - there must have been witnesses. Find them.

    Make sure you do everything you can - referees, information from your trainer - so that you are not going to be railroaded - because you are nice.

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    He's given me the date and time and it was a time when I would have been there, usually between 9am-9.30 (after the little dogs have left) Well yeah he said he'd organise to meet with the owner I guess to confirm or deny I know her?
    There are regulars who all know me and my dog and one friend who comes the same time everyday as me as our 3 dogs all get on so well. I have plenty of support from those at the park too. But yeah it seem so strange.
    I even said to the ranger, im not one to run away if my dog has been involved in a rumble or anything, I will ALWAYS make sure both owner and dog are ok before leaving the park and I haven't had any instances where I've had to so its just so weird.
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    Just goes to show how thick some rangers really are...whether your dog had a muzzle on or not is not the issue...what you should have said is "my dog didn't bite anyone...prove it" as anyone can say your dog bit them.

    Ring the council and tell them this clown accused your dog of biting another person and her dog three weeks ago without any proof and my dog had a muzzle on. Sounds like a set-up to me...why wait three weeks to report it...if that happened to me I'd ring the council immediately.

    Maybe others might be able to give you better advice but I would want proof it was my dog...as far as a meeting goes I wouldn't be going...since when does council arrange "meetings" between the accused and the victim...never...again very suss.
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    They need to prove it happened. It is not on you to prove it didn't!,

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    Did the 'Ranger' show any ID?

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    They need to prove it happened. It is not on you to prove it didn't!,
    I think "innocent until proven guilty" only applies to humans, and not for speeding fines etc.

    It doesn't apply to dogs and has caused considerable problems - especially in Victoria - where indeed anyone can point and accuse and if the Ranger is convinced then the owner has to prove it didn't happen... Which is an absolute piece of cr*p.

    What bothers me is that K&G doesn't know if the dog was in a "rumble" or not. I don't think there is any way I would not know if my dog had been causing trouble. Sometimes I miss the beginning but I always catch the end of it. She is very rarely out of my sight when on public off lead spaces. The only times have been when she went visiting a friend's place without permission... (straight up the sand dunes - roast chicken is powerful stuff).

    My dog has occasionally driven away "rude dogs" - the ones with a very direct approach. Some of them squeal - even when they have not been touched. Very frustrating. Usually those dogs owners know that tho. One dog - doesn't come to our park very often but seems to piss off every dog at the park - it bolts up to every dog and gets in their faces says something extremely rude about that dog's ancestry and then runs away screaming... WTF. I put my dog on lead when I see that one coming but even so - it still tries it on.

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    Reminds me of a case I heard a while back .. chick caught speeding in her car for some crazy speed - she hired a professional driver, went to a closed track with her car and just flawed it and the car was simply unable to hit the speed she was apparently doing when she got fined. Took the professional to court with her and ultimately won. If you can prove your dog can't bite through the muzzle then it's hugely in your favour.

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    May I ask why your dog wears a muzzle in the first place...as this implies your dog is aggressive to most people and as mymatejack said the woman saw your muzzled dog and said "that's him" after all he must be the only Kelpie cross in NSW.
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    Yeah the freeways in Melb are bull$hit, overtake someone over a 10 metre stretch and you've triggered about 20 speed cameras in the process. Same with the tolls.

    I don't remember the exact details of the story but it's quite amusing and shows that if you can prove the most obvious things then it can make a huge difference in the outcome.

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