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    I've got a friend who works speed cameras (helps set them up and then sits in the car with the camera) he says the cameras will occasionally take photos of speeding light poles or clock a bus at a few km over it's possible top speed etc. And as those come up - he marks them off on a list as "not for spending ticket" or "radar error" (bounce?) or something like that. But the photos get handed off to some underpaid office admins who don't check the fail list... and send out to tickets to everything they can figure out the plate on. :S

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    Update: Ok so , She is pursuing that my dog be declared dangerous.
    He wares a muzzle only because he is not to fond of the little white fluffys (which are not usually there when we are) but being a responsible dog mum.
    Now he doesn't seek out and target dogs, he is quite happy to play with his sister and do his own thing at the park. If a dog however harasses him constantly, always in his face, he's not happy with that and may snap.
    So now im absolutely terrified of the out come .
    I will have a chance to plead my case to council and proved hes not . But I cant even think of keeping him locked up in a concrete run while his sister has the backyard, its not a life for him. And yes the Ranger had ID.
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    Is there actual proof it was your dog that caused the injury? Also when it did happen where was the owner and how did you not see it?
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    Not that Im aware of. 3 weeks ago. It happened at my regular dog park, where we always go. No idea what the owner was doing. I would have been just talking to a friend I meet up with her dog, just chatting but always keeping a eye on my dog, im not one to forget .
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    This lady's story seems a bit inconsistent.

    It is possible to be hurt by a dog's wire muzzle, and being stomped on by a big dog is no fun either...

    But other than that, the lady didn't say anything to you, you and your friend didn't see or hear anything happen, and your trainer says your dog could not bite another dog while wearing that muzzle.

    The lady said she was bitten and then back tracked on that. Could she have been scratched by your dog jumping or contact by the muzzle?

    Had you ever seen that lady and her dog at the park before?

    Could it be her dog started it? If anything happened? I have heaps of problems at the moment with other people letting their dogs rush up to mine.

    On her side - I see heaps of people come to the dog park with their friends - and not see what their dog does. I've even missed the occasional crap from my own dog (and I'm mortified) because she's snuck one out when I'm distracted (usually picking up someone else's crap).

    And I've had other dogs sneak up on us and cause problems because I can't be looking everywhere at everything. I usually have my phone (for photos) but I can't use it for phone calls because I lose track of my dog. I have occasionally taken a call but it usually sends the dog walk to hell.
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    The thing is I know all the morning regulars in the morning. If a new dog comes to the park I will always put my dog on a lead to suss out the other dog first if I see its going to be trouble, ill leave the park every time. So to answer you question no I don't believe I have seen her, but then I don't remember her either.

    It is possible I didn't see the initial row between dogs , but she is saying I did see it, apparently I pulled my dog off hers, and I did apologise, and gave her dog a treat. So I honestly don't know. Yes my dog is a reactive dog but only if the other dog starts it he wont ever start it.

    Ive been crying all day, I just cant get it out of my head.
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    but she is saying I did see it, apparently I pulled my dog off hers, and I did apologise, and gave her dog a treat
    I gotta agree with MMJ - I can't possibly hand out treats to other dogs if my dog is having a go at another dog - which she has been doing rather a lot lately - fortunately? for me - she's almost always on lead and the other dog starts it.

    There's been one exception - but this was with a dog that had attacked her before - and she didn't hurt the other dog, just freaked it and it's handler out - which is not good - I could just as easily be in the same situation as you except I've got a good memory of that event - etched - cos it was traumatic for me.

    My dog was everybody's friend and grovel dog, sometimes she still is. Enough nasty, mostly small dogs or poodle crosses, have caused her grief that she's in the "I'll send you off first since you're such a crap reader of leave me alone signals". Tonight I watched my "friends" little dogs - off lead - four little dogs went and ganged up on an on lead GSP - seriously bad. The owners (my friends) did nothing effective to prevent it. One called her dogs back and put them on lead for a while. The other didn't have that much control. Sigh.

    That's the kind of crap that has turned my dog into an unpleasant b#tch. Sigh.

    So I feel where you at - and I think I'd be really angry with this other woman. I don't think I could believe that council could declare my dog dangerous. But it wouldn't really change things a lot for you down the park - ie you'd go but you'd keep your muzzled dog on lead. The other lady's dog would harass yours and you'd have to kick it. Self defence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    I gotta agree with MMJ - I can't possibly hand out treats to other dogs if my dog is having a go at another dog - which she has been doing rather a lot lately - fortunately? for me - she's almost always on lead and the other dog starts it.

    There's been one exception - but this was with a dog that had attacked her before - and she didn't hurt the other dog, just freaked it and it's handler out - which is not good - I could just as easily be in the same situation as you except I've got a good memory of that event - etched - cos it was traumatic for me.

    My dog was everybody's friend and grovel dog, sometimes she still is. Enough nasty, mostly small dogs or poodle crosses, have caused her grief that she's in the "I'll send you off first since you're such a crap reader of leave me alone signals". Tonight I watched my "friends" little dogs - off lead - four little dogs went and ganged up on an on lead GSP - seriously bad. The owners (my friends) did nothing effective to prevent it. One called her dogs back and put them on lead for a while. The other didn't have that much control. Sigh.

    That's the kind of crap that has turned my dog into an unpleasant b#tch. Sigh.

    So I feel where you at - and I think I'd be really angry with this other woman. I don't think I could believe that council could declare my dog dangerous. But it wouldn't really change things a lot for you down the park - ie you'd go but you'd keep your muzzled dog on lead. The other lady's dog would harass yours and you'd have to kick it. Self defence.
    I don't know why I would have given a treat I really don't I guess trying to be nice as im sure it looked bad but was more noise than anything else and was trying to reassure the owner? But I cant remember any of it, I really can't. Ive got photos of my dogs muzzle with a rather long letter to accompany the notice (whenever it arrives). I have my trainer who is willing to help and a fellow dog owner that is always at the park the same time as me (her dogs are probably the only ones that my Gibbs gets on with well) she is willing to help and write a letter too if needed.
    So I'd say he wont get declared dangerous, ive got a lot on my side. But of course its that little thought in the back of my head saying 'what if.....?" Im trying to stay positive . I know I would remember something like that if it was as severe as what she is claiming I WOULD remember something like that .
    I think I've gone through every scenario twice now and it still makes no sense.
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    I have my trainer who is willing to help and a fellow dog owner that is always at the park the same time as me (her dogs are probably the only ones that my Gibbs gets on with well) she is willing to help and write a letter too if needed.
    This is good. It may come to nothing. Especially if three of you stand against her. But the stress, ugh.

    NSW is a lot nicer about this kind of thing than Vic and you can get your dog assessed and off the dangerous list if the worst happens.

    Steve Courtney at K9pro.com.au (NSW based) has occasionally helped people in this situation, and there are some animal laywers who help in Victoria. You or your trainer could ask Steve for some advice on how to sort the problem out and what to do if the council goes ahead with the dangerous declaration.

    I think the more you know about the process and what is likely to happen and how you deal with that - the less you will have to stress about. I'd definitely send Steve an email or phone up.

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    Sounds sus as hell to me. I'd be making moves to protect your butt!

    Next they'll be asking why you had a muzzelled dog off lead and after that you'll be facing more problems.

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