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    Ok so i'm wrong, sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by four socks View Post
    Ok so i'm wrong, sorry

    It's ok FS... thank you for apologizing

    honestly a lot of ppl do get confused with the name/ breed & i think that some of us SBT fanatics do refer to them as English SBT'S for reasons that i previously stated.
    Last edited by Aussie Floyd; 07-28-2009 at 06:46 PM.

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    I was under that impression as i was told that by registered breeders of the staffordshire bull terrier.
    once again Sorry

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    Hey 4socks
    It's ok..As there's the English-Staffordshire and the American-Staffordshire, the English applies to ours ( Misi,NJ,floyd)etc,
    and yes ours are bull-terriers and American are terriers.
    Last edited by Magdalena; 07-28-2009 at 07:02 PM.

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    Thanks Mags knew you would know!
    She loved Misi too!

    Thanks Floyd pretty sure thats what she is looking for.

    If she gets one she wants papers or else will rescue she is a bit unsure about an older dog not knowing its history and having a small child. Most of the rescues we have seen say not good with kids.

    Also the other dog I was describing I was told it was a staffy perhaps it was xsed with a bbd.

    Not really fair with having dogs looking slightly different and havilg slightly dfferent names a little confusing especially when people have differing opinions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by four socks View Post
    Ok so i'm wrong, sorry
    You are not wrong four socks. You are absolutely right.

    The correct name for the breed as recognised by the ANKC and the UK Kennel Club is Staffordshire Bull Terrier. A visit to the ANKC web site will confirm this.

    It's only in recent years that some people have added the word English so as not to confuse the breed with the AmStaff. This is very common but is incorrect.

    Whatever you call them Staffs are great little dogs.

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    Yes Deerhound you are correct too, both the ANKC and the UK Kennel Club name them as Staffordshire Bull Terrier, but as long as i can remember (like last 15 yrs or so)- myself as well as other ppl i personally know have always known them as English Staffordshire Bull Terriers, & i personally think that's what they should officially be known as, so hopefully no more public confusion between the two breeds will occur - wishful thinking i know.

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    Thank you Deerhound, I couldn't find english on the ANKC and UKKC website.
    The only thing i did find was on another website
    The breed first developed
    In the early 1800s and was a cross between the Bulldog of that day and the old English Terrier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by four socks View Post
    Thank you Deerhound, I couldn't find english on the ANKC and UKKC website.
    The only thing i did find was on another website
    The breed first developed
    In the early 1800s and was a cross between the Bulldog of that day and the old English Terrier.
    Just had a look in Vero Shaw's The Illustrated History of the Dog (1879) and there is no mention of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier in it. However there is a lovely old picture of the original Bull and Terrier Dog (which later became the Bull Terrier) and these dogs look much more like Staffs than Bull Terriers. Bull Terriers seem to throw more to the now extinct Old English White Terrier.

    I also had a quick look in volume 3 of the Hutchinsons Dog Encyclopedia (1934) and they are not mentioned there either, although I haven't searched through all 2000 pages yet.

    This seems to indicate they became a registered pedigree breed quite late in their history. Certainly Staffs were a relatively rare breed in Australia until about the 1980's. Despite working in welfare I had never even seen a Staffy until I met the then secretary of the breed club in 1976. I've had a very soft spot for the breed ever since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemyf7 View Post
    Sorry four socks, but I can confirm, we get English Staffys in all the time.
    The are the same as any SBT.
    Actually you are wrong.
    There is NO such thing as an English Staffy.

    There are ;

    Staffordshire Bull Terrier
    American Stafordshire Terrier
    American Pit Bull Terrier
    English Bull Terrier



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