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    I know this might be a bit of a controversial topic, but I'm curious ..

    From my short time researching dogs on the internet before deciding to get my own, one thing I came across nearly everywhere is people copping hate from others about how "wrong" crossbreeding is, that their dog is a mutt and isn't going to be a good pet, is a "low quality" dog etc etc .. and I sit there and ask myself .. why?

    Now, I can understand the assumption here is that majority of mix breed dogs are from people who simply think "Hey we have a male and female dog, let's make some money", which I do not agree with for obvious reasons, but putting that aside and assuming the breeder IS responsible and truly loves their dogs ..

    What's so morally wrong about cross breeding? Why is it seen as such a bad thing? Why do people think that these "mutts" are going to make any less of a good pet than a pure bred dog? For a start all pure bred dogs are a result of cross breeding at some stage, why is there a sudden discouragement from people about doing it now?

    I kind of almost see it as selfishness, and as an analogy, "Well we already have computers, why bother researching and inventing new technology?" Why? Because only through experimentation is how humans got anywhere in this world, for literally everything we know and do. If someone can genuinely breed a cross breed dog, it's healthy, and suits the owners needs, who's to say whether it's a crappy "mutt"?? In 10 years time said crossbreed might be the most popular breed in an entire country, is it still a low quality mutt that no one wants?

    Sorry I had this built up for a while now and needed to let it go. I'm one of those people that will love dogs no matter what they look like or what they do, as companion animals. So what if it's neck is a bit too short or it's nose is a little rounded, or maybe it's ears aren't as big as they should be, it's still a dog, an animal with feelings, and needs a good home with lots of love. Humans are so quick to jump on racism in their own species, but when it's essentially racism between dog as a species, people are all for it.

    And just so it's clear I'm in no way supporting irresponsible breeders, but if the breeder is genuine in their ways, then I don't see what the deal is.

    Opinions are welcome, it's the internet and I'm not gonna break down into a mess if someone disagrees with me as some people may I just hope people on this forum can contain themselves and have an intelligible discussion, as many are probably aware some forums out there would endeavour to have my head off for even conceiving a thread such as this
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    I agree with you (not everyone will though... when i read the title of this thread my instant thought was "this is going to be quite heated and controversial )

    My general opinion is that if the dogs are healthy, have a good temperament, and a reasonable amount of history is known about both parents linage, then I don't see the problem in breeding, if the person is not doing it for selfish reasons.

    I think I do tend to prefer owning pure breed dogs (I also lean towards supporting responsible pure breeders more... registered or not). However this does not mean that i dislike cross breed dogs. I've known many, many amazing cross breed dogs. My first dog was a beautiful Border Collie X Springer Spaniel, he died almost 10 years ago and I think to this day I'm yet to meet a dog that matches him when it comes to personality. That dog was bombproof.

    I totally fell for a Border Collie X Koolie X German Shepherd at a shelter a couple of years ago. If I was able to, I would have taken him in a heartbeat, he was gorgeous!

    If the person has healthy dogs with known family history, I don't see a problem with that person deciding to breed if they are willing to put in all the time and effort to find good homes for the pups. I know everyone says that breeders should have homes for their puppies before they're born, but lets face it... not even all registered breeders do that.

    Although i'm okay with some cross breeding, I'm not a huge fan of breeding two dogs that are very different physically Eg. A samoyed X greyhound or perhaps a Beagle X Japanese Spitz (yep that one happened, thanks to a person i know). And I will never support the breeding of two dogs that are different sizes Eg. A Husky X Great dane

    Yes the pups will probably be awesome dogs who are loyal and grow up to be someone's best mate, but i'm still not keen on that kind of X breeding.

    I am okay with breeding two reasonably similar breeds such as a Kelpie X Border Collie or a Maltese X Shih Tzu... but only if it is done responsibly and for the right reasons.

    I don't think i'd ever intentionally buy a X breed dog unless its a rescue i've fallen for (which could easily happen). But if I'm blatantly honest, If i had the opportunity to view the parents and learn about the history of the parents I would consider buying from a responsible non-registered breeder... or as people call them, a 'backyard breeder'.

    One thing I do hate is when people make blanket statements that if a person breeds X breed dogs, then that must mean they do not love their dogs, and do not care about them. You simply can not make a blanket statement like that without jumping to conclusions.

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    Oh yes I totally agree that some breeds should not be mixed, as it can even be fatal, though as you said it seems to be basically a blanket statement that ALL crossbreeding is bad. As you're aware from my intro thread, I bought my pup from a non registered breeder, and he's been by far the best temperament puppy I've ever met personally. While being a registered breeder might make you feel a bit better about their puppies, there's still going to be a few out there with dodgy practices, just like there's some non registered breeders out there doing it responsibly. As long as they're producing healthy pups I really don't mind either way.

    And yes I realize this has the potential to become a controversial thread, but I'm hoping we can have a conversation as adults and not bickering children like some other places. I'm simply curious what people think makes cross breeding such a horrible thing

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    Well lets compare your dog to one of mine. You bought a dog from a backyard breeder who sounds like they were quite responsible, and your pup has grown up to be an awesome dog (thats the impression i'm getting, at least )

    My dog (Koda) came from a registered breeder. He is frightened of a lot of men, extremely territorial and also reactive towards other dogs. He has to wear a muzzle in public in case an off leash dog runs up to us.

    Dont' get me wrong, I love Koda to bits, and would do anything for him. But this experience has certainly proved to me that buying from a registered breeder doesn't guarantee you will get a perfect dog, and buying from a responsible backyard breeder doesn't always mean you will get a bad quality dog. (Whatever a bad quality dog is)

    My Kelpie (Dodge) came from a farmer I know who bred his two working Kelpies to get a new working dog for himself. This person isn't registered with any organisations, he's just a farmer. So technically Dodge came from a backyard breeder too, although i've noticed people seem to be less upset when the "backyard breeder" is a farmer who works with their dogs.

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    I suspect part of the reason why so many get worked up about crossbreeding is that there is no doubt about it that the majority of crossbred dogs are still being bred in a completely irresponsible manner. The breeder you found is an exception. There are still heaps of stupid dog owners out there who think their dog needs to have at least one litter. For no particular reason, other than that it's "natural" or something like that. Probably an equally large number don't desex their dogs for whatever reason and then don't properly confine them. I work for a rural rescue organisation and the number of litters that get dumped every summer (sometimes by the side of the road) is a crying shame in this day and age.

    Add to that those who see breeding random pups as a way to make a quick buck and you get the picture.

    I'm not against deliberate crossbreeding at all. But I would never buy a crossbreed from a breeder while the stupid dog owners mentioned above are dumping their little mistakes at pounds all over the country. Then again, I wouldn't buy a purebred either and probably for the same reason. But it's very rarely purebred pups that end up at the pound...

    I do think it's funny that the reason must people quote for wanting a purebred dog, "you kind of know what you get and how they'll turn out", is the opposite of why I like my mystery mixes. It's more like having kids: you have no idea what you'll get and it's kind of exciting to see how they do turn out. I never could have predicted what kind of dog my Banjo ended up being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post

    I do think it's funny that the reason must people quote for wanting a purebred dog, "you kind of know what you get and how they'll turn out"
    Almost like saying that if 2 doctors have kids their kid will turn out to be a doctor too. There's a good chance the kid may turn out that way under influence from the parents, but there's never any guarantee. I do fully understand why people want pure bred dogs, but I also don't understand why people outright hate crossbreeds too
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    I have heard/read people talk about mixed breeds as if they're vermin. Just the tone in which they use words like mutt or mongrel... "Subcanines". I think that might come from the same dark place where racism and sexism originate... And because they don't know MY dog. Lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    I have heard/read people talk about mixed breeds as if they're vermin. Just the tone in which they use words like mutt or mongrel... "Subcanines". I think that might come from the same dark place where racism and sexism originate... And because they don't know MY dog. Lol!
    Its interesting how different peoples opinions can be. I've met people who seem to think i'm crazy for wanting a pure breed let alone paying $1000 for one. I've also met people who seem to think that my dogs are not as healthy because they are pure breed. My area seems to be full of working dogs, and oodle X's. Labradoodles are extremely popular around here, I've never understood the appeal to that cross... their coat can be a nightmare to maintain. I've also seen a lot of people who will advertise saying "I'm looking for a free puppy, I don't care what breed/size, just give me a puppy" So sad

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    Could just be that they don't find any of the crossbreeds appealing, which is all fine, but when you tell someone else their dog is a "low quality" mutt/mongrel because it's not pure bred really annoys me.

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    I'm sure there are quite a few people who mistakenly think that anyone who buys a purebred is a snob too. As if it's the same as buying a designer handbag. Though I must admit that the latter is what I think of people who buy oodles. I have a very rigid and unflattering image of the typical oodle owner... While the purebred owners I know (not that I know that many here, mind you) are a pretty eclectic bunch.

    But in the end, once the dogs are part of the family, it doesn't really matter why they chose them.

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