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    Default I Want a dog for my Son, never had one before, need help in choosing

    Hi
    Firstly i hope i have posted this in the correct place as im a newbie

    I will give you a quick explanation of my situation

    I want to buy a Dog for my Son who is 5 years old as he would love it myself and my Wife believe

    I have never owned a dog before and i have got no idea where to start hence the reason i joined this forum

    I would like to have a pure bred dog, which is small, we can have in the house with us, does not shed its fur all over the place and does not wreck my house which i not long ago fully renovated! We have a small house in country Victoria with small garden area, we also have another property by the sea with decent sized gardens

    Something small which is friendly, and my Wife wants to wash him in the bath weekly to keep him nice and clean, im sure my Son would love having him as he is our only child and it will keep him happy and amused!

    I would also like him to be well trained, maybe if we even took him to dog obedience classes?

    Can somebody point me in the correct direction of where to start looking etc and what to look out for when purchasing a dog? I see people selling dogs in local newspapers but im not sure if this would be the way to go?

    I want to take my time in this process to make sure we make the correct decisions

    Is there places in Mebourne area i could look, i actually live in Morwell, Victoria.

    Thank you in advance!

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    Welcome to the forum, and good on you for putting a lot of thought into this, its a very important decision to make, not something that should be rushed

    If you want a well trained dog, that will be up to you, any dog can be well trained, but its up to the owner to put the time and effort into making the dog well trained. Obedience school would be the best option for this

    In terms of damaging your house. You can't expect any puppy to not cause damage, they are babies and do not know what is right and wrong. You will need to start with toilet training, this is fairly straightforward, however most puppies will have at least one or two accidents. Puppies also need to chew on things while they are teething. Your puppy may try chewing on things in your household, so you will need to keep things out of reach of the puppy and make sure that the puppy has plenty of toys available that it can chew on.

    In terms of shedding, all dogs will lose hair, some more than others, Poodles shed very little. The key with shedding is to brush the dog regularly to remove all the dead hair before it falls out on its own, so it doesn't end up on the floor of your house.

    How active of a dog would you like? Reading your requirements, two breeds come to mind. First the Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, they are beautiful dogs, with a very soft, gentle nature (they're really good with kids). They are happy to be with their family, and are quite easy to train. They enjoy a regular walk, but from the ones i know, they just want to spend time with their family.They do shed a bit though.

    A Toy Poodle is also an option, they are very intelligent, friendly dogs. I've found that some of them can be a bit yappy though. They are more energetic than the Cavalier, so will need a bit more exercise. Regarding grooming, they shed very little, however they need to be clipped every 6-8 weeks to keep the coat healthy and matt free, brushing will also help to keep the coat matt free.

    I would suggest you check out Dogzonline Australian Dog Breeders at Dogz Online
    You can check out lots of breeds/breeders and get in contact with the ones you like. Getting in contact with a breeder would also be good as they may be able to help you determine if their breed is the right one for you.

    On Dogzonline you can also find adult dogs that need homes http://www.dogzonline.com.au/breeds/dogs.asp
    This may be a good option for you because they would be out of the puppy destructive age and would also be fully toilet trained already.

    Good luck
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    welcome orkneyguy28

    Getting a purebred puppy - can take a while - between 3 and 12 months depending on which breed and breeder you choose.

    Look for ANKC registered breeders with "prefix" - their dogs will have long fancy names that go with their pedigree. All their puppies should be registered and microchipped and be at least 8 weeks old before you take one home.

    Home Page: Welcome to DogsVictoria

    All puppies chew things. No puppy is born trained - you have to do that. Suggest you read up on Ian Dunbar's Dog Star Daily digital dog text book - especially the "before you get a puppy" stuff. You might have to create a log in id and password there too but it will be worth it.
    Before You Get Your Puppy | Dog Star Daily

    RSPCA also has a lot of good info on choosing puppies. Morwell is in the heart of the Victorian puppy farm industry - and you really want to avoid getting a puppy from a puppy farm - they have health problems because their parents are not well matched and not well looked after, and they have social problems with dogs and people - because they don't get enough time with either before they're sent to a pet shop or seller or homed with someone like you.
    What is a responsible companion animal breeder? - RSPCA Australia knowledgebase
    RSPCA Australia knowledgebase / Puppies

    Washing a dog weekly can be bad for the dog's skin and coat. Monthly is safer. Dogs that do not shed fur - will need clipping every 6 weeks or so and that can cost $80 per session. Clipping usually includes a full wash and blow dry - a bit like the hair dressers for humans.

    If you don't know what kind of dog you want apart from small and non-shedding - go to an all breed show or a toy dog (small lap dogs) show
    Dogs Victoria host these at KCC park and sometimes clubs around the state and country will also host them. To find out what breed shows are on KCC/Dog's Vic have a calendar of events
    Events Calendar
    The next one is this Saturday at KCC park. Western Port Highway (near Cranbourne). Try to be there early before everyone goes home.

    A dog can live for 15 years or more - so your son will be 20 when this dog you get is old. You need to be prepared to keep the dog for as long as it lives and look after it.

    The best way to avoid a puppy farm is to make sure you get to meet the parent dogs and see where the puppies are growing up. Beware of people who have the last puppy in the litter left - it's a way to sell by making you feel sorry for the puppy. And as soon as that one is gone - they have another "last puppy".

    In Victoria - a puppy must be at least 8 weeks old and microchipped before it can be sold - that's the law - avoid any seller who doesn't comply. If it is an ANKC pedigree - it must also have ANKC papers which provide details of its ancestry. And anyone who tries to sell you a poodle cross and promises you that it won't shed fur or is "the best of both breeds" - is lying. Genetics doesn't work that way. You could equally get the worst of both breeds. It's like saying cousins will be exactly the same. No they won't.

    This is a page of dogs that need clipping but don't shed much as a starting point.
    Pantone Poodles - Poodle Info - Whats in a Doodle?

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    What a great gift idea for your son. Good luck with your search.

    Great advice above .... just wanted to add that you should avoid pet stores as many of them source their pups from puppy farms or puppy mills.

    Its worth googling 'puppy farms' and having a read. They are cruel heartless people mass breeding dogs in very inhumane conditions. Please dont give your money to these type of people.

    And like Hyacinth said ...washing a dog weekly isnt a good idea. It'll wash out all the oil from the dogs coat. Monthly or even longer is much better for them.

    Puppy Kindergarten is a great way to learn the basics of caring for your new pup and it is a good way to get to know your local vet aswell. I highly recommend doing a course.
    Good luck.


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    Hi
    thank you for all you information so far as i never knew any of this hence the reason i came on here!

    Yes im sure our Son will love it but we want to take our time and do it correctly

    Puppy Kindergarten, i have also never heard of this before but my friend google shall tell me

    Does anybody have any information on what mini Dachshunds are like?

    I quite like the idea of toy poodles and have looked at a few just through google images and there are so many different breeds, do most breeds of toy poodles shed very little or only some breeds? I would not mind the clipping and brushing

    Thanks once again for the information and quite a bit of interesting reading via the links to other sites

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    I don't know heaps about Dachshunds, but as others have said, you could go to some dog shows and meet some and talk to their owners Or perhaps give a breeder a call/email to discuss the breed.

    Here are some links about Dachshunds.

    Dachshund, Dachshunds, Wiener Dog, little hot dog, hotdog dog

    about_dachshunds

    Miniature Dachshund Breeders, Australia

    Quote Originally Posted by orkneyguy28 View Post
    I quite like the idea of toy poodles and have looked at a few just through google images and there are so many different breeds, do most breeds of toy poodles shed very little or only some breeds? I would not mind the clipping and brushing
    I'm not quite sure what you mean by different breeds of Toy Poodles. There are three sizes of Poodle (Toy, Mini and Standard) all three sizes are pretty much the same except for size. The only major difference between different toy poodles would be colour, but its still the same breed

    If you're referring to toy poodle crosses (Which people make up names for, Eg. Cavoodle, Cockerpoo, Multipoo) These are just cross breed dogs, and are also what puppy farms seem to specialise in, so i'd suggest you avoid these and stick with the pure dogs

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    A friend recently bought a toy poodle puppy who is now 7 months old. It is awesome, light footed and bright and energetic and responding brilliantly to obedience training classes. Poodles are not shedders due to having a different kind of coat. Could be a good choice.

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    Ugh, double post. Oops

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    Daschunds can be quite loud and willful, they're a hunting breed. If you have never had a dog before aim for a 'companion' breed, something like a cavalier king charles, toy poodle, pug, french bulldog, silky terrier etc

    Dogzonline is a good start and it can also point you to breed clubs which are worth having a chat too. Honestly I have a pug and I dont see hair everywhere like people say, I dont brush her (I only do it when I bath her which is every few weeks to a month now) and I dont have hair everywhere or on my hands when I touch her. I think diet and keeping her trim help (I feed a raw diet). Frenchies can be willful little dogs, great breed though they truly are clowns and love a rough and tumble which can be good for a boy. Very short hair and low maintenance coat. Cavaliers can be clipped back, lovely nature and very child friendly.

    Remember with a small breed puppies are very delicate due to their size. You will need to supervise a lot to make sure the puppy is not dropped or falls off furniture. As for training, I would say invest in a one on one lesson with a good trainer who will show you what you need long term and put you on the right path. I can see who there is in your area or close when you're ready
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    do most breeds of toy poodles shed very little or only some breeds?
    There's only one breed of dog that is a "toy poodle".

    There's lots of poodle crosses but the only poodle you can be sure about shedding wise is the pedigree - no cross with other breed of dog. So poodle not something oodle.

    Toy Poodle Standard ("non sporting" Breed) - Australian National Kennel Council
    by the way you don't have to get the show standard hair cut (lion mane and pom pom feet) - you can get any hair cut you like - including short or long around the nose...

    Personally I don't understand why so many people are freaked out by dogs shedding. When I had long hair - there was way more of that everywhere than I've ever had with my dog's hair. And one flat static mop deals with it quickly and easily off the hard floors.

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