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    Angry I failed as a dog owner.

    We both failed .... but its mainly my fault.

    And someone else payed the price for it.

    So pissed off with Mojo and myself. I simply cant trust him around kids except my own 2.
    About a year a go he lunged and growled at this kid .... i had him on a leash so he didnt make contact. It was so out of the blue and caught us all by surprise.

    I've watched him like a hawk around this kid ever since and both the kid and myself got our confidence back when he comes to visit. He's my neighbours kid so he's here a few times a week. Mojo never even blinked at his presence.

    So on Saturday both my daughter and him went outside to jump on the trampoline. I'm outside and both dogs are too. I wasnt looking at them but they both got off and grabbed a tennis racquet each and just as the kids tried to hit the ball Mojos bloody jumped up on his back and was growling and making such a comotion i thought he was actually fighting with Bronx. Thats the noise he made ...just like a full on dog fight. His head right behind the poor boys head. Luckily he didnt fall....i dont know how... but Mojo didnt stop till i was about a foot away from grabbing him. He must have seen the look in my eye because he let go and bolted.

    The poor kid had a few scratches on his back ...but no bite marks thankfully. It scared the crap out of him and me too. We are so lucky it wasnt anything worse. 50kg dog against a 40 kg kid. How he didnt hit the ground still amazes me.

    But that noise he made wasnt just a muck around thing...it was a full on "hey i'm pissed off with you" noise.....not just a loud growl.

    I'm wondering if he was overdoing his peacemaker thing he does...thinking the kids where playing to rough or hypo for his liking. Or if he thought he was about to hit my daughter with the tennis racquet and was protecting her ???

    The kids mum was pretty good about the whole thing and did mention their female Lab is very much in heat at the moment. I'm not sure if that could have played a part in it but both dogs may have smelt her on him too.

    Confused ... let down... and pee'd off with my dog.....and myself. I'll never trust him around other peoples kids again.


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    Oh what a horrible situation Sean Do try not to beat yourself up about it too much, you were not expecting it, and you did what you could once it did happen.

    I wouldn't be sure what is best to do for that kind of behaviour, so i won't try to suggest something in case i'm wrong.

    I'm just glad the kid was okay, and that his mother sounds to be understanding. You're lucky she doesn't hate dogs and insists you get rid of Mojo

    You haven't failed as a dog owner, you assumed the situation was okay (Which is fair enough) and once you realised there was something wrong you acted and took the situation into your own hands which is exactly what needed to happen. Sometimes dogs do stupid things, ranging from chewing shoes to things as serious as this.
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    Sounds like Mojo was trying to protect your kids from what he thought was a threat and was just a warning...not acceptable behaviour and when Mojo saw you he realized it too.

    Mate you're not a failed dog owner...Mojo must understand and learn that when you allow someone on your property it's ok...but still keep an eye on him just to be sure especially around other kids.
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    Hi Sean,

    I am sorry you had to go through that. Thankfully no one was seriously hurt. As MD said, dogs do stupid things sometimes. I am sure you will be able to sort this out because you are a good dog owner. Let us know your progress

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    I agree with the others. You are not a failed dog owner. Just make sure there is no contact when other kids are around and all will be good. Mine have not grown up with kids so are always separated from any who are here. Maybe you can adapt something to house him in the back yard for this purpose as it is better to be safe than sorry?

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    These things do happen and you did have some warning from last year which is easy to contemplate in hindsight, I think as owners we do need to pay attention to these signs especially when it involves kids, at least Mojo had good bite inhibition. I was a kid at a party when the family's young German Shepherd did a similar thing to a young boy who was running around except he bought him down and sank his teeth deep into the boys back.

    It is just a fact that some dogs cant trusted to be around kids especially when they are moving and excited. From now on I would just ensure that when kids come to play that Mojo is safely contained. Then everyone stays safe and there is no risk at all. Consider it a warning where you both came off lightly, you took responsibility, learn from it, make sure it never happens again and move on.
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    Thanks guys.

    I have one whole side of our house fenced off so i can lock the boys away when needed. Its also to seperate them during feeding time.

    The young fella was back at our place a few hours later and i sat everyone down and told them it's fine for anyone to visit us but if they want to play out the back then they must see me first so i can put them away. He was pretty cool with that idea so i hope they dont let me down. We are all very lucky the parents where OK about it all.

    I now know one slip up and i could loose my dog. Thats a very scary thought.

    Just happened so quickly and with no warning at all. Its a real shame i cant trust him around kids now. Thing is i think he thought he was doing the right thing at the time and while i like the fact he would protect his family .... he just cant be doing that !!


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    Gold star awarded to a good responsible dog owner.

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    Hey Sean...

    I feel that lack of trust with Frosty a lot. I just don't know who or what is going to offend her. So far - it's all been noise but if it gets worse than that - I lose the dog. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of middle ground.

    So she's lost her second chance with the lawn mower man - she left a white scratch mark on him - but if it had been an older person with thinner skin there would have been blood. And I've got no idea why she reacts to him the way she does - except cattle dogs have a thing for machines like lawn mowers, whipper snippers, chain saws etc.

    I got away with letting her play with my brother's kids and their giant rude groodle in a small space yesterday. Groodle thought teasing her repeatedly despite her go away leave me alone signals - was very fun. At one point we were trying to do trick training and there was a lot of food from a lot of different sources (three toys, one person and two kids). I spent a lot of time holding groodle's attention while the kids got Frosty to do various tricks. And both dogs ate a lot of kibble (supercoat - pure sawdust mixed with sand - I'm sure). Frosty was pretty happy and she didn't argue about the food either. She has been known to shoo off "threats" to her bob a lot - but there were two and a squirrel dude and two kids handing out treats so she just moved off to the next source of food...

    So I got away with it. But it could just as easily gone nasty. Frosty is pretty good at giving warnings tho. Starts with the stiff body stare, growl and then she will do the snapping piss off thing without actually making contact. I have been very careful about allowing her to give warnings.

    But sometimes - if she's just playing or chasing - people or dogs get hurt by her being unintentially clumbsy - ie her paws connect with the backs of ankles or she gives a "run faster" pinch-nip. And that's not so ok with me. It's fine with other dogs the same size but not if she skittles them (she's good at that). So if she gets too rough there I have to stop the play.

    I can't explain the Mojo thing - your only warning might have been the way he was looking at what was happening. If that.

    Sometimes - like the lawn mower man - no contact is the best option.

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    It's a horrible situation. Nero bit a boy once and I remember exactly how confused and afraid I was. It wasn't a vicious bite, but a defensive one and didn't do any serious damage. But I was scared shitless that his parents could insist on Nero being a monster and declared dangerous or even put down. The whole episode was from start to end my fault - Nero was not to blame and I beat myself up for weeks over it. Yet, in hindsight I'm kind of grateful to have seen what 'could' happen. It left a lasting impression and really put it into my head to Never. Leave. The. Dog. Alone. With. Kids. Ever! So in the end this episode might have just saved Mojos life.

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