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    I wonder if breeders might be a bit one-eyed sometimes
    Breeders are completely one-eyed about their favourite breeds but they also want their puppies to go to homes where they fit in - so they are the best people to advise you whether your life style is a good fit for their dogs (take a description/list or print of your posts from here with you so you don't forget anything). There is some variability between lines within breeds - so you get some more laid back than others. There's even a line of Labradors that are not food obsessed - if you can imagine.

    If you don't like dog fluff - I'm thinking maybe avoid the Labrador and the golden retriever - especially the golden retriever - they shed enough to fill pillows and going to the beach does not "wash the hairs out" - I find with my dog the hose off and shammy dry and brush with a rubber curry comb does a good job of removing hair.

    A hydrobath (pressure hose and blow dry and brush) once a month might help. If you get a non-shedder that needs clipping - you'd be doing that anyway.

    Some Schnauzers I've met would be laid back enough to cope with your life style and some would not. Their breeders should be able to advise. The welsh terrier - the trick would be finding a breeder in SA. I don't know if there are any or not.

    Airedales - are quite energetic. Most I've met are quite gentle but some (that I haven't met) have a bit of a reputation for biting people. So your best bet here - would be talking to the breeders too.

    You'd definitely need a dog that is happy to stay home and not go wandering. This will definitely be a training and management thing while the dog is a puppy - eg I'd have the dog secured when couriers are in and out and leaving doors open - in a crate or a secure and separate bit of the back yard (and not inside the pool fence - dogs do drown in back yard pools - especially ones with covers on).

    Other dogs in the non shedding range (but I don't know a lot about their temperament) are lagotto Romaglo, Portuguese water dog (aka Obama dog - because they have some) - these are working dogs - so they can be energetic like border collies or kelpies. Bichon frieze - your hubby is not going to like the look of these at all, but I think you could make them look a little bit more like irish terrier if you clip for Mohawk. They're small and totally laid back and like staying home. Not sure they'd be that keen on going jogging with you.

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    Your in the right place for sure !!

    And look what I found .......the perfect dog for you and your hubby ...trust me.



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    Oh my god how cute are the bullmastiff puppies!

    I had to look at the one for english mastiffs as that's what i'd like to get next. Surprised me that they seem to think they live longer than the bullmastiffs. Wouldn't have thought so with the size difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
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    And look what I found .......the perfect dog for you and your hubby ...trust me.

    A jogging partner ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RileyJ View Post
    A jogging partner ?
    SURE !!! .... as long as the joggings done on a treadmill in a lounge room with a nice comfy sofa for the BM to snooze. LOL.


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    Thank you MyMateJack and Riley J for your input! ANd Hyacinth, your help and opinions have been invaluable!

    After a really long chat with husband last night, we have reached something of a compromise (we think - but I wanted to check it out with you guys first!)

    I couldn't sway him on a Staffordshire at all :-( I'm sad about that. But he won't change his mind. And I am very determined not to get an Irish Terrier because I just don't think it's the right breed for our family and our circumstances. And I just wasn't sure enough about Airdale or schnauzer, so we didn't talk much about those. My daughter wants a dog she can throw a ball to and I have an image in my head of a dog with a great sense of humour.. a bit of a clown at heart. We have an Irish Terrier in our street, a schnauzer too, and I don't see the 'clown' quality in those breeds. (Perhaps I just know them well enough?)

    Anyway. We actually couldn't agree on a type of purebred at all. But there is one hybrid that is a compromise for both of us - a Miniature Golden Doodle. It's the only dog we can agree on! Husband is happy with the way it looks and I'm happy with descriptions I've read so far. I think the retriever would have the clown/humour quality that I value - you know, a bit rough-and-tumble - eternally playful if that makes sense? And I can picture it being very happy being chasing a ball with kiddo... I don't think a standard golden dood would work with our four year old daughter as it might quickly get too tall for her... but we thought a miniature might be OK size-wise.

    Would the poodle component cancel out any of the fun-loving, not-taking-life-too-serious qualities of the retriever? I guess a breeder would be the best person to answer that question. I want a dog whose face lights up when it's time to play! I see so many dogs in our street who don't have that glint in their eye that I love.

    I've done a bit of reading this morning, and I think if we get a Golden Doodle from pup we could probably get it used to the level of activity in the house, and train it to be calm when the doorbell rings or deliveries are made. Our backyard is very secure, and since our deliveries are made at fairly standard times of day, and we can see them pulling in the drive, I think we'll manage OK just popping the pup outside while it's very young. It IS highly important that as an adult dog it won't make a dash through a courier's legs when they're at the door! But when I was a kid the only time this happened was with a Beagle we had - a real opportunist!! And the rest of our dogs were very easily trained to be relaxed and not dash at the first site of an open door. All of the dogs I had as a child walked well without leash, and did fabulously at dog training lessons. (Well... except for the Beagle... but that was really my brother's dog so I'll blame him for that!)

    Anyway. I've thought about the jogging thing and it's not that important to me really. I've been jogging by myself for a long time now and I can cope with jogging alone in the future (when I can eventually jog again) :-) Actually I don't even know if I want to jog anymore given the toll it takes on knees and hips. I think I might be a walker for life! And given that I'm only walking short distances right now and slowly building back up again, I think me and a pup will be beautifull suited and probably move at a very similar level together, as Riley J points out.


    So - A few questions -

    Can anyone see a reason why a Minature Golden Doodle would be highly unsuitable for our situation?

    Any opinions on whether there are common problems with this hybrid?

    Finally, how we can find reputable breeders to phone and have a good chat with before we make a final decision (and potentially go on a waitlist)?


    I found some great sites on the web about puppy proofing and getting children prepared for a puppy joining the household. Big adjustments!! Are we ready for it all I wonder?!?! But we're also really excited to take this step that we've talked about for years now.

    This feels like a MUCH bigger decision than when we decided to have a baby!!
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    I just did a quick google search and there's a place in oz selling puppies for $2000 which to me is a ridiculous amount to pay for a crossbred that comes with no health testing and can throw to either the retriever or poodle and you wouldn't really know till it got older.

    It also seems to come from places that are puppy mills and I think you'd be better spending your money on a purebreed dog that has reputable breeders and health testing behind it or rescue a dog from a pound or shelter.
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    hmm.. so is that to say that crossbreds are generally ill advised?

    I have been wanting to rescue from pound or shelter for years now (especially staffy or staffy cross which I see LOADS of on rescue sites and fall in love daily!) but husband won't. He wants a brand new puppy and wants a general idea of what he's getting, wants to choose from a litter etc. etc. And yes, I know you never really know what you're getting, particularly with a crossbred dog, but... well, he's a taurus. What can I say? I've been fighting this fight for a long time now wtith him and I'm not going to win so I have to compromise! It's a puppy from a breeder or he won't agree to get a dog at all... (bloody Tauruses. Sorry if you're a Taurus...)

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    Miniature Golden Doodle

    erm - the trouble with cross breeds is despite what their breeders say - you can't guarantee anything about the puppies - ie what their genetics will be out of what the parent dogs have.

    So Frosty did puppy preschool with a dog that was supposed to be a golden retriever x (miniature) poodle. It grew to be somewhat taller and bigger than a standard poodle. Ie taller than waist high. And it shed hair like a golden retriever. And it needed clipping.

    Some of these dogs look more like old English sheep dogs than Irish Terriers.

    If a breeder says "you get the best of both breeds" they're lying. You could equally get "the worst of both breeds" - in particular PRA blindness from the Poodle side and Hip Displasia from the Golden Retriever.

    Also my brother has "rescued" a golden retriever x poodle - he has a huge back yard in the Adelaide hills - the dog is ENORMOUS, prone to dreadlocks - clips are $80 to $100 every 6 weeks or so. And it's BALLISTIC - extremely energetic.

    It is also very sweet and friendly, and a tiny bit drooly. So you can end up with a wet lap as it likes to put it's head in your lap for ear rubs. And his dog (all his dogs) is a bit smelly - compared to mine. Not sure why. Might be the food.

    Most of the "Designer hybrids" come from puppy farms too - where there can be 10s or 100s of bitches in small pens with concrete floors and not nearly enough human contact.

    If you really like the idea of a cross breed - I'd rather you went to a rescue and got one of theirs. You could spend the money you save on any unexpected vet bills from the unknown genetics, but if you get one from a foster carer - ie a puppy that has been living in someone's home (not a pen out in the paddock), they will give you a good idea of whether the puppy is a good fit.

    Please don't make any decision until you've been to the dog show on June 1st. Don't believe any marketing spin from a "designer" dog breeder. Any attribute you need (eg non shedding and no taller than...) get the breeder to put in writing. If they won't then you know the truth of what they're saying. But also think about how hard it will be to persuade your child to send back an 8 month old puppy who has just grown to 30kg and 80cm at the shoulder...

    PS you could get a regular poodle - the size you want and then get the coat clipped to look like the groodles do. There's no reason it has to have a poodle cut if you don't want. Then you can make sure you get one where you've met the parent dogs, know if they're friendly and laid back or not (lot of variation in the poodle lines).

    And have a look at petsrescue.com.au
    Byron - Small Male Cocker Spaniel, English x Corgi, Pembroke x Terrier X Mix in VIC - PetRescue

    by the way - Sean - I think the couriers going in and out might not be thrilled to find that they have a Mastiff sitting and drooling on them and they can't do any more work for the day...
    Last edited by Hyacinth; 05-21-2014 at 11:05 AM.

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