The GSD club that trains at KCC park is shameful to watch. The class I could see was extremely traumatised.I have a few dogs that have come from a breed club that is like that. The dogs are actually traumatised.
I like the video of the dog club secretary... I notice no check collar, and no correction even when the drop seemed a bit slow. And the dog seemed to find getting the next job/cue rewarding - like a sheep dog being rewarded by being asked to work more sheep.
Frosty can do most of those moves but I'm wondering how many she'd do if the treat bowl was over there and not on me. Some I think. must do my own video.
With her - All I have to do to let her know that she is not doing what I want is withhold the treat/reward/praise. And then we have to deal with the frustration of that. What I haven't done is train enough persistence and perserverance for both of us - so she knows to keep trying different things and I know to be clearer with my signals for what I want. But we have a lot of fun with the heelwork.
It's hard to know where the balance is between telling a club chief instructor with obedience titled dogs that they are abusing their dog, vs limiting the tools a good dog trainer can use. There are even some professional trainers that I feel abuse dogs - based on the results eg happy dog in, traumatised miserable dog out. How do you set up (enforceable) rules that stop the bad trainers but allow the good trainers to get on with it.
How do you explain where the line is between abuse (eg my club instructors) and balance. I'd really like them to understand why I find their conduct so upsetting and explain that it's not working. But even our members who use the reward based methods - and beat the bad trainers routinely in competition are not getting the message through.