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    Quote Originally Posted by mymatejack View Post
    Trying to beat a Stafford off when it's decided it wants to go is pretty much a useless excercise. With Staffords, remember, they should never redirect their aggression so don't be too afraid to get in there and have a go(you obviously need to decide whether you're willing to take the risk of getting bitten). Consider carrying a break stick and knowing how to use it. Personally I don't bother with a break stick but I'm willing to use my fingers to do the same job .. i.e grab the snout of the dog that has a hold and roll their lips over their teeth and squeeze until the pain makes them let go ... dangerous as far as getting bitten myself but I'm willing to take that risk. Another thing to remember is if a Stafford has a hold and it's only skin that held, don't stress, but most definately don't try to pull them apart, while they only have a hold of skin it's at worst puncture wounds, try and rip them off and you'll rip skin making the injuries much worse. At the very least, get a hold of the Stafford and hold them until they let go ... if you try and hold your dog it gives the Stafford the chance to play tug of war, roll etc again turning puncture wounds into ripped skin.
    +1 with this. I can quite easily pry open Harleys mouth. He has never been in a fight situation though but I don't think it would be very different. I would also do what ever I could to protect my dog as well. Horrible situation all round. I really cringed at the description of those men beating that dog though

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    I am scared that I would step on a Chi.

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    I've tried to catch a couple of dogs to break up a dog fight. It's difficult for several reasons.

    1. None of the dogs will obligingly hold still for you to grab any bit of them.

    2. My dog tries to join in (nips at them) or be cheer squad (barks at them) and I don't want any dog latching onto her instead.

    3. I don't want to hurt any dogs by jumping on top. But a crash tackle grapple might be what it takes to get hold of a fast moving dog.

    4. I don't want to get hurt. And fighting dogs are scary.

    What I usually try to do is grab the back legs. Ideally the back legs of both dogs get grabbed by separate people and lifted into the air so the dogs do not have as much traction on the ground or balance, and you drag each dog backwards by the legs until they separate. A dog can't lunge back in if its back legs are in the air.

    I've seen this method used and it works really well - the hard part is actually catching the dog.

    I think catching the toothy end would be harder and more dangerous. Dogs that bite - also shake and it just makes it impossible.

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    A few times at work now i've been approached by dogs that looked like they wanted a piece of me . When it happens i try to hide any fear behind my own aggression. Takes a bit of nerve and practice but so far so good. Having a backup weapon of a hose filled with -42 degree LPG helps a bit too i guess. but i haven't used it yet ...touch wood.

    I don't fear any breed but i am very wary of some breeds. Red and Blue cattle dogs are at the top of my list. Those red buggers are forever trying to sneak behind me. Any strange acting GSD's get watched closely aswell.

    Funnily enough Brindle colored dogs used to seem like 'trouble' to me for some reason .... kinda like looking at some sort of tiger dog LOL. My wife really wasnt keen on Bronx's colour and yellow eyes ... it can look a bit intimidating at times.

    I highly recommend the leg grab technique aswell for breaking up pooch fights... worked a treat on Bronx when he and Mojo had to sort out who was king of the backyard when he was new.
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    Can't say I have a fear of any particular breed.

    I'm always wary of dogs out wandering on their own regardless of breed or size.

    If they're of leash with their owner I check to see if they have a collar on or if their owner has a lead with them. People who walk their dog/s without any form of restraint handy worry me.

    When i'm at the off leash beach you can see other people and dogs coming from a fair way away and if someone sees me and puts their dog on a lead I assume it's either because they are worried about the size and temperament of my two(which is fair enough), or they are worried about how their dog will react to mine, or they just don't want to interact with mine, again which is fair enough, so I automatically put my two on lead.

    I am lucky in that my two have never been in a dog fight. The worst I've encountered is a little yap yap that wandered out from god knows where and tried to bite the back of Kodi's legs.

    Kodi was on lead with me and my lead rope is a horse lead rope so it's fairly thick so I just gave the yap yap a belt on the arse with it and it left.

    I have heard that if you shove your finger up a dogs bum hole if it's got hold of another dog it will let go.

    Can't say i've tried it nor want to but if anyone wants to give it a go let me know if it works
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    Quote Originally Posted by goggles View Post
    I was told to shove your fingers into its nose and pry its mouth open. Putting my fingers into an angry dogs mouth sounds scary.
    Why it works? If you have done it correctly and folded the lips of the attacking dog over it's teeth then the only way the dog can bite your fingers is to bite through it's own lips. It's a risky manoeuvre no question. Maybe you should just carry a break stick with you ... youtube will teach you how to use one

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    Definitely going with the break stick. Or a bowie knife.
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    Break Stick: making a Pit Bull release when it attacks - YouTube Interesting video on how to use a break stick.

    Basically says everything we've done in the past was really wrong but it's also interesting because according to this guy, you really only want to be using a break stick with pitbulls/staffy types because anything else is likely to redirect onto you. They are a great breed, I really do like them in the right hands, they just scare the bejesus out of me these days when I have my dog.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goggles View Post
    Definitely going with the break stick. Or a bowie knife.
    You'd have a hard time explaining the bowie knife to the police. There's laws about carrying offensive weapons especially knives in urban areas.

    I like the way that guy in the video uses the tent peg (sand wedge) but my dog would munch it up. I'm surprised his dog didn't. I'm also surprised it held so nicely still for him to do that.

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    I really don't trust any of the working breeds. Most of the ones I've met have been well-trained, quiet, obedient and such, but they all seem to have a hinge loose to me. I don't know what it is - it's like they're too quiet. And I don't like how they will circle around the back of you rather than walk up and say "hello".

    I've had to break up a few fights with bullies and the only time I have been bitten is when I have put my appendages in the wrong place. I'd be most surprised to see human aggression in a bull breed. However, they really do not get along with other dogs as a rule of thumb (unless there is heavy and continuing socialisation from pretty much birth) which is where many owners fall short. They also require a strong pack leader and if the owner does not provide this, they will take matters into their own hands.

    Staffies and their relative breeds are great dogs but require a very special owner, and their popularity as a great family dog has ruined their reputation in many cases due to poor owners and BYB.

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