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    Default Would you rather donate to a human cause or a animal cause ?

    .... and why ?

    I decided that this year i'm going to concentrate on animals....especially pooch's.

    Why ? , well the way i see it humans are pretty much responsible for the situations most animals find themselves in these days. Makes me sick to see us stuffing it up so bad. If the small percentage of good souls out there who can sacrifice there lifestyles and time need a hand then the least i can do is swing em some bucks.

    To be blunt i'm sick of helping those that wont help themselves ....or those that waste the money on unnecessary crap.

    Thoughts ??


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    Hmmm. We have been thinking to sponsor a child overseas. We only have fur children by choice and I think making sure someone else's child has a good future can't be a bad thing. Problem is we haven't found a program we feel really comfortable supporting. I don't want to put money into anything that has its roots in religion. Especially if its going overseas. So, for now we're sponsoring 2 pooches and an orang utang baby But I'm working on it...
    Edit: I forgot unicef... So yes, I guess in a way we're doing both.
    I can see your point Sean, about humans being responsible for the situation animals are in. But I reckon you just waste your breath talking about animal rights in a place without human rights. For me they go hand in hand.
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    Hmm that's hard.

    I think I did find an overseas aid charity that did encourage the use of birth control and condoms (for disease prevention). I should have book marked it or something. I think Medecins sans frontiers fits that category - I occasionally give them money.

    I don't like the save the children type funds - because I'd rather start with educating the mums and facilitating planned children ie don't have to have children until you're ready and able to support them. A lot of places - the girl or woman doesn't get that choice at all. If she's lucky she has a father and family to help but if not - then they all end up depending on charity which isn't good.

    So failed to answer Sean's question.

    Answer is sideways of neither. I think we have enough people on the planet that we definitely need to start population management everywhere including Australia. And I'm reluctant to force people to get licences to have children - tho I'd like to force some of them to have parenting classes before the baby arrives... I think the best way is to make birth control, condoms, and the relevant education - really easy to get and use.

    I donate some money to things like cancer research - since I lost my dad to cancer. And some to the medical thingies. And some to environmental type charities and occasionally to places like the AWL and RSPCA - tho that's usually only in exchange for something they've done for me. Eg RSPCA gets money to look after stray galah - although that bird was so friendly and adorable the staff and volunteers were competing to take him home and look after him. And some more money to board my dog there - tho I won't be doing that again in a hurry given the rash she came home with and how skinny a friend's dogs came back from there.

    I'd be keen to donate to habitat restoration and preservation projects.
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    We sponsor a child through Compassion Australia (which is a Christian organisation). I don't really focus on particular charities to donate to... If i see the opportunity to donate down the street or something, and i think its a good charity that is actually doing good in the world then i will donate I kind of just take the opportunity if i see it, I'm pretty spontaneous about it, there aren't any charities i particularly follow. If i was looking for particular charity to focus donating to, then i'd probably donate to a Church in a third world country, or Alzheimers research (the disease runs in my family, my grandma currently has it) or some kind of dog rescue.
    So in answering your question Sean, I donate to any charity i think is actually doing good in the world whether its for people or for animals.

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    don't know any organisation that has it right, human or animal.

    as far as animal organisations go... most have ethical standards that are made to look good, but honestly if you take all factors into consideration they just blind side with good to cover the bad.....
    not going to name organisations and there standards that out right stupid... to prevent flame war...

    don't have much money but be damned if i'm going to give it away unless they doing it right...

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    What really gets my goat is the mobs that bail me up in the shopping malls.

    Them...."Oh hi, how are you ? I'm representing Blah, , ..."

    (I hear them out for a minute or 2 if i'm in a good mood)

    Me...."OK, here's 5 bucks ,glad to help" .

    Them...."Oh no sir , i cant accept your money... but if you give me your bank details, we draw $$ out every month "

    Me...."Nah, forget it !".

    Surf lifesaving Australia are the worse. Even wanted me to buy a scratchy, and what ever i scratched was the amount i was going to donate. Nearly jammed it down the blokes throat.


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    best thing to ask...

    "are you government funded?"

    answer 1.
    "yes"
    "well you have more than enough"

    or

    answer 2.
    "no"
    "why is that, what are you doing wrong the government wont help?"

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    That's mean Spiderwick

    The trouble with many charities is they get started up and run by idealists who often have very little financial sense or accountability.

    I'm fond of our local conservation council - they inhabit a donated space and run on the hint of cash and a lot of desire to make the world a better place.

    I think I hate Mr Rabbit because he's doing his best to trash any kind of environmental preservation or sustainability in favour of supporting the fossil fuel giants. Hopefully one day - the big corporates will be made to pay to clean up but at the moment they can't imagine that coming back to haunt them.

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    I would rather stab myself in the eye than give to any organised church. So that rules out a lot really.
    Certain human charities have questionable overheads that dip into your donation, so most famous ones, have some poor statistics on how much in the dollar actually gets to benefit the service users themselves.
    Happy to donate to animal charity. We have local pound, that gets mine. Money and time. I prefer to donate time to other charities.

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    I'm very selective in which charities i donate to.

    I always support the cancer council, guide dogs, animal welfare groups and buy my poppy and legacy badge on remembrance/Anzac day etc.

    Anything church related can go and get stuffed and that includes the salvos when they come door knocking.

    May seem a bit harsh but I have very good reasons for it which I wont discuss here.

    The local animal refuge (not rspca) has a bin outside my work where you can donate cans of dog food etc. At least you know these are going to the animals lol.
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