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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    I dunno. Most of her life would have been a small cage surrounded by other barking dogs - like at the pound. I reckon she'd be used to being on her own. But she might be more used to noise not quiet. I think - apart from the possibility of some kind of injury - she's just a tad freaked out by everything and if she has had a lot more exercise than she's used to she'd be muscle sore as well. If some of that running around involved prangs with other dogs - again sore.

    It is still early days for this dog. Maybe we expect too much too soon?
    They often sleep them 3 in a pen and then let them run as a pack in the exercise yards or areas. That was the deal with my mums ex breeder.

    I agree it is early days, it can take quite a long time and for some things it can take years. I would say she is just freaked out. My mothers bitch was just plain freaked out to begin with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by margoo View Post
    It sounds to me as if she is just awfully lonely So I think I'd arrange for her as many playdates as possible to show her that she can still have fun being an only dog. You said you'd consider adding a second dog to the household eventually. Have you thought about doing that sooner rather than later? Maybe it would help her settling and bonding if she wasn't alone?
    Hi Margoo,

    I would get another dog in a flash. I'll see how things go over the next few months - she obviously loves other dogs so maybe it might be a good thing for her.

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    Yes, I know in theory it's always better to work out the issues with your first dog before getting another one. Yet, I think sometimes best meant theories are just not working. Our Rox was terrified of anything when we first had her. Similar to your pup, although we had already another dog. But she was drifting around in our household and unable to find her place. A few weeks after we had her she still hadn't settled in so I enrolled her in a basic training course. I thought it would help her to find her place in our household if she learned and understood the rules and boundaries. And if she'd get praise for doing things right.

    Well, it went completely over her head. She basically spent the training lesson lying under a chair and when I tried to coax her out she'd just give me this completely blank stare or flop onto her back. My awesome dogtrainer put a stop to it pretty much right away. She sent us home and came over for a 1:1 session instead. For follow up class training we were allowed to bring our other dog as a 'therapy dog'... simply because his presence relaxed her to an extend that she was able to take a few things in. That way she was able to pick up some of the basics.

    So I think with an anxious dog you've got to be flexible in your approach. Try different things and see what seems to work for your pup. And hopefully find a dogtrainer who is open minded about things and doesn't insist on sticking to the script. Maybe see how she reacts to play dates at your place. If she enjoys it and if playing ruff makes your place a little less scary. If it can help her coming out of her shell, maybe you could make it a regular thing. Ideally there is another lonely pooch in your neighbourhood who needs a doggy daycare

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    They often sleep them 3 in a pen and then let them run as a pack in the exercise yards or areas. That was the deal with my mums ex breeder.
    You might want to check with the breeder if this is what they do too. Just send an email. Ask if she likes living with other dogs in her kennel space. And then you will know.

    You don't want to get a second dog and find she hates having other dogs in her space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    You might want to check with the breeder if this is what they do too. Just send an email. Ask if she likes living with other dogs in her kennel space. And then you will know.

    You don't want to get a second dog and find she hates having other dogs in her space.
    I sent an email to the breeder today. I also talked to Kathy Koppelis-Mcleod, a prominent dog behaviourist here in Perth. She said just to give her lots of time, high value treats when the kids pat her and lots of exercise at the beach and using a long line leash.

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    Well, the breeder called me directly this afternoon. Basically, she said that Serena was in daily play with lots of dogs in and out of her kennel and run, so she has nor problems with other dogs sharing her space. She also suggested that another dog would be good for Serena and would help her to be herself again.
    With the way I see Serena light up when we hit the local dog beach, I can understand that and that maybe providing for this need is what I should be doing as the owner responsible for her well being.

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    I would really hold off getting another dog. You have only had this one for a couple of weeks and it really is early days for you all. It takes time for you all to get to know each other and build up those very important trust levels.

    Bringing another dog into the family – just for the dog you have – is not sound thinking and decision making, and could potentially cause more problems – than solve any ! So I would be waiting a while before I did anything like this.

    How did the vet visit go ?

    Really pleased that you had the call from the breeder - good stuff !

    Off on a tangent ! Had a look for dog crates over your way – not that expensive really !

    dog crate in Western Australia | Gumtree Australia Free Local Classifieds | Page 1

    With a bit of imagination and ‘gung-ho’ – maybe you and the boys could make something for the pup:

    Your dog on TV… � Let’s Upcycle!

    https://www.google.com.au/search?q=d...table&tbm=isch

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    Even a table with a sheet over it – is good for a pup’s bed area !

    Other information that I found - some links for dealing with a fearful dog:

    Calming the Fearful Dog - YouTube

    FEAR IN DOGS: Defining, Understanding, Helping (Trish King) - YouTube

    Handling Shyness - Clicker Dog Training - YouTube

    Shy and Reactive Dog Training- 3 Calm Treat Deliveries - YouTube

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    She also suggested that another dog would be good for Serena and would help her to be herself again.
    It's good to know Serena is happy with other dogs in her space. I think I sense the breeder looking for an opportunity to make some more money out of you, ie sell you another dog without providing you with the info you need to make a good decision up front. Not sure I'd be keen to reward that but at least she replied to your email promptly.

    What you don't want is two dogs accustomed to being happy with dogs but not with people, and happy to ignore people (and recalls). You want the first dog to help you train the second dog - not make it harder with two dogs that charge off down the beach ignoring you and saying hello to every other dog there whether they like it or not.

    A staffy arriving at full speed can be quite scary if you don't know the dog already. Or even if you do. My brother's dog was quite good at skittling people and other dogs. Accidentally. Like a self propelled cannon ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    It's good to know Serena is happy with other dogs in her space. I think I sense the breeder looking for an opportunity to make some more money out of you, ie sell you another dog without providing you with the info you need to make a good decision up front. Not sure I'd be keen to reward that but at least she replied to your email promptly.

    What you don't want is two dogs accustomed to being happy with dogs but not with people, and happy to ignore people (and recalls). You want the first dog to help you train the second dog - not make it harder with two dogs that charge off down the beach ignoring you and saying hello to every other dog there whether they like it or not.

    A staffy arriving at full speed can be quite scary if you don't know the dog already. Or even if you do. My brother's dog was quite good at skittling people and other dogs. Accidentally. Like a self propelled cannon ball.
    You are spot on. She offered to sell me a male staffy at half price as a playmate for my Serena. I gracefully declined for both financial and practial reasons. And as you said, I don't need another pooch that is unsocialised with Homo sapiens sapiens.

    On other news, Serena is coming along quite well. her recall is getting better and I am waiting for the long line to really work with her to get recall rock solid. She likes BBQ TBone steaks and chicken mince. Her coat is a bit dry so on vets advice I got her some dry food with omega 3 etc. Again, thankyou for your advice.

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    'Ados' - How is your pup going ? Any updates ?

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