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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Hi Adrian

    My dog is occasionally a bit confused about sit too, I keep thinking I should give it a new name. Part of our problem comes from the obedience training where after the first month - they expect "auto sit" ie sit with no command.

    Tho we have the signal going fairly well most of the time. The signal - from any distance looks like me holding a treat in my hand so fingers and thumb together, and then making a motion like I'm holding the treat in front of her nose and then lifting it up and over the top of her head - slowly. As she tracks the treat with her nose, her bum hits the ground and I say "yes" and hand over the treat.

    This method is called "luring" and you want to drop the treat in the hand fairly quickly and get the treat from somewhere else after the sit has been completed successfully.

    Other methods just involve having control over your dog eg she's on lead, or she's waiting for her dinner and then just waiting for a sit and saying "yes" and rewarding that.

    You could also train a nose touch... and then use her "targeting" your hand to get the sit or stand and maybe even a drop and definitely leg weaves. It does get the palm of your hand a bit snotted up tho.

    Personally - a raw roo tail might be ok but I wouldn't feed the smoked or dried roo tails or pig trotters or anything dried/smoked with bones in it. Once in a while like once every few months might be ok, but daily or even weekly might cause bone splinters to accumulate in the gut and cause a blockage or just splinters causing problems at both ends.

    I sometimes feed my dog roo jerky - and sometimes she eats it too fast with not enough chewing and chucks it all up (yuck) but I'm pretty confident there's no bone splinters that might perforate bits of her on the way through.

    I know so many dogs (including my own) who have accidents or problems with bones I think it's just not worth it. Other people do just fine with their dogs and bones. One friend who has a bull terrier - spent $6K getting a bone out of her dog's aesophagus and chest as her dog managed to inhale the bone and get it stuck. She was trying to eat too fast because of the dog next door saying rude things to her.

    Dogs aren't that bright when it comes to food. However now that the dog is fully recovered - she gets bones again. Go figure.

    My mum got chicken mince from the butcher for cooking dog dinner. What the butcher didn't tell her was the mince was actually minced carcass and should have been fed raw (actually whole carcass is better but dogs sometimes inhale those and get them stuck too). So our family dog got a blockage and a lot of money was spent at the vet getting that sorted too.

    These days when I buy meat or bones - I never say it's for the dog. Actually sometimes if there is a bit of extra mince - I put some in her dinner (dinner casserole meatloaf stuff) and some in mine (spag bol). So it better be human grade food.
    Hello Hyacinth.

    The roo tails are basically jointed and sold raw in pieces. Serena loves them and seems to be ok - but I will be cautious. I have also given her raw chicken necks a few times and she loves them. Not sure if they will represent a digestive issue so maybe only give them once in a while.
    Thanks to a very good quality dry biscuit, Serena's coat is nice and shiny too.

    thanks for the advice

    cheers

    Adrian

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    A lot of people feed their dogs chicken wings or necks.

    I gave Frosty a chicken wing when she was about 6 months old. It took her a little while to believe she was supposed to eat it. And then she kind of broke the bones in it and folded it up and swallowed it whole. Erk. And vomited it back pretty much whole about 8 hours later. Revolting.

    she's had a bit of chicken pieces since then, she's a bit more diligent about chewing it but it's not something I let her have regularily. I think if I was going the whole chicken wing again - I might freeze it first so she has to bust it up to eat it. She doesn't mind eating frozen things. Tho mostly it's her frozen meatloaf stuff, which breaks up inside her whether she chews it or not.

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    I don't feed Brock chicken necks and I would never feed him chicken wings. On very rare occasions with close supervision I feed him the odd drumstick .. but that's cause he's a gutz and will pretty much swallow them whole. I prefer lambshanks and the like that actually make him chew, good for his teeth and less chance of nasty things happening.

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    Ooh I would never give Frosty evil hound lamb shanks ever again. The long shaft structure breaks into long splinters which for her is just like swallowing needles. Never ever again. Bloody vet recommended them but he has labradors who probably swallow the things whole or just pick the meat off and leave the bones. Similar problem with other leg bones from other critters - chicken legs splinters too but at least those are soft.

    The soft brisket bones from the bottom edge of the rib cage can work better. They tend to mush up not splinter. Evil hound has demolished the occasional spine bone (tail or neck of sheep or cow), for some reason that seems to go better as long as she takes her time over it and doesn't try to eat it in a hurry because she thinks I will take it away from her (I do that a lot but usually offer something better up front for trade - eg roo jerky).

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    As you can see, it is all common sense, trial and hopefully not too much error.
    My dogs have no problem at all with any bones (they don't get cooked ones except chicken carcass from our roasts broken into small bits unless I use it for soups)

    I never will ever get smoked bones again. Did once and saw the shards and got them away from them really fast.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    Default Update on Serena, also some concerns and questions

    Hi all,

    I just thought I would give everyone an update on Serena's progress. Well, our recall is even better now to the point that even at the dog beach or park with other dogs, she generally stays by my side, although I use the leash also, especially if there are very rambunctious dogs that are jumping all over the place at me or Serena. She is sleeping inside mostly in her spot under the desk.

    I, however, have a couple of ongoing concerns:

    1. Serena sleeps a lot. I mean, she will stay inside and sleep all day and is very unwilling to come outside unless I jingle my keys which she associates with going for a ride. She is very energetic at the beach and seems so happy. But when she is in the house, whether its under my desk or her other spot in the family room, all she does is sleep and only really seems full of beans outside at the beach, park or what ever. Do you think she is depressed or its just early days in her adjustment?

    2. there is a small area on her tail which is devoid of hair and still hasn't cleared up. its not itchy so far as I can tell. When I went to a vet some time ago, she said it might a symptom of thyroid imbalance. this may explain the lethargy but I prob need to do a blood test I suppose.

    3. Serena is still quite scared of the baby and the 2 year old. She hasn't shown any signs of aggression but I am at a loss as to how to manage this.

    Anyway, thanks for reading..

    cheers

    Adrian Di Lello

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    I was going to mention that you have been a bit quiet – no updates for a while – so pleased to read your update !

    As far as the kids are concerned – she probably never had to deal with them – so she could take more time to get used to them.

    The more things that you include her in with all the family present – the quicker she will come around. Some pups never like kids much – but as she doesn't bite them and moves away from them – all should be good !

    Just make sure the kids don’t crowd her and they respect her space.

    Maybe you need to teach everyone - including you and your pup how to play !

    Improve Your Dog Training By Playing Like a Dog! | Susan Garrett's Dog Training Blog

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    Had any more ‘fish ‘n chip’ picnics in the backyard ? Are her table manners like this ?

    The Dinner Of Marielle - Funny Dog Eats At The Table

    Or does she whinge like a typical GWP:

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    Baby steps - heaps of patience, love, training and time will win the day for you ! You have achieved a lot - so keep up your good work !

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    Dunno about the tail patch - it might be a scar and just not going to heal up. It might be something else that you'd need a skin scraping or blood test to get sorted. Or it might be something she's aggravating when you're not looking - I think this is least likely.

    With the kids - I think it's just a matter of patience and working on some fun games the kids can play that your dog enjoys. It might take a while. keep paying attention to what gets her excited like the keys and pair those with the kids.

    Sleeping - I think there are a few people with "teenage" puppies who would trade your sleeping dog for their ballistic destructive one. She is 6yo. She is used to living in a small kennel with an occasional but short run with other dogs kept the same way so hardly fitness building. She might run around like a looney at the beach but it would mostly be adrenaline and excitement driven. Ie she won't notice how unfit she is until she gets home or the next day. Pay attention to how many sprints she can do at the beach and how long they are... if she can continuous running for the entire time you are there - then she probably is fairly fit, but if she has a couple of sprints and then has to have a rest, and then a couple more sprints and another rest... then maybe not so fit.

    On/Off switches are things you can train a bit. eg the keys are on switches - pair them with other things you want to be on switches. Off switches are usually less attention except for the dogs that work even harder to get your attention (border collies and malinois are notorious for this).

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    Good to read your update with your gorgeous girl ... I'm really jealous of your amazing recall with Serena ... one day ... maybe ... I wish ... haha

    Ruby is three in June and if I'm home during the day, I'll take her for a walk really early in the morning and she'll sleep for the rest of the day, lazy biatch!! ... but, If I shook the car keys or took her to the beach or park, she'll run around for ages.

    I don't have kids, so I'm no help with anything really but I'm sure you'll get loads of good advice here

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    I think one of the major hurdles I have to overcome me comparing Serena to my last staffy who was totally socialised and as staffy as you can get. A naive thought I know but that dog was my shadow and even thought its been 5 years since he died, I still keep his tag on my car keys. But Serena is a very special girl in her own right and I am happy she came along.

    RileyJ - thanks for those links - they will be good sources to get ideas from. Serena is coming along well. slowly get used to kids - doesnt seem to freaked out as she was before. I think you are right, its going to take more time until she is somewhat comfortable.

    Hycacinth - She is most definately unfit and can't run for extended periods of time. When she does run, she seems to be in heaven

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