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    I still let my dangerous cross breed sleep next to me at night. I trust her with me.

    Not quite so complacent with other people's children, especially children I don't know well.

    But maybe a little bit too complacent with other people's cats and food left out for their pets...

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    I think there may be dogs who have by temperament and/ or mishandling become an unreasonable risk. I am not qualified to make those decisions clearly but it does happen. Years ago a work mate bought a very expensive papered GSD, we used to walk together every morning. Now I like dogs but that dog did not have good eyes right from the start. I always walked on the other side of her. By the time it was 12 months they had tried training and handling and were advised to surrender it to the the police department to see if they could use it. I heard later it has been pts by the police dog unit as being temperamentally unsound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maddogdodge View Post
    People get the idea that particular breeds are more likely to bite than others simply from the media which is full of lies.

    Dogman, from your posts you seem to be implying that you totally trust your dogs 100% to never bite a human. Does that mean you would leave your dog unsupervised with a toddler? No responsible dog owner would do that.

    So you're saying that I shouldn't own dogs because i take into account all possibilities regarding my dogs behaviour and how i behave around my own dog? It would be a massive shock to me if Dodge or Koda ever bit me, but forgetting the whole "this is my furbaby that loves me" thing, they are both animals and can choose to bite someone if they wish to. Its a bit like people... most people would avoid getting to a fight with another person... but given the right circumstances anyone would punch another person in the face.

    I believe we are going to have to agree to disagree.
    I'm not implying anything...I stating a fact that I trust my dogs 100% not to turn on us...I can't say the same for burglars or trespassers .
    I would not leave a dog unsupervised with a toddler...that goes without saying...have you ever had a Rottie or GSD stand on your toes. If you don't trust your own dogs then that's your problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogman View Post
    I'm not implying anything...I stating a fact that I trust my dogs 100% not to turn on us...I can't say the same for burglars or trespassers .
    I would not leave a dog unsupervised with a toddler...that goes without saying...have you ever had a Rottie or GSD stand on your toes. If you don't trust your own dogs then that's your problem.
    I trust my dogs. As i said before it would be a massive shock to me if either of them ever bit me, but i also take into account that they have the ability to bite if the are in a situation where they would want to.

    I haven't had a Rottie or a GSD stand on my toes... but I have had a Great Dane stand on my toes... goodness gracious that hurts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    I just hope Dogman never has to find out the hard way. Complacency is a big problem with dog owners of any breed or cross breed.
    We can not supervise every second.
    I wouldn't call it Complacency...I'd call it a firm knowledge and experience of the breeds that I own that I obtained from people in these dog clubs that have owned these wonderful..loyal and loving breeds for many years. I asked you have you ever owned these breeds...since I didn't get a reply...I can assume the answer is no.
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    I think all of us feel quite confident that our dogs would never maul us. No matter what breed they are... No you can't be 100% sure, but in a similar way that you can't be 100% sure that water will freeze at 0 degrees.

    Biting is another thing and something any dog could do if they got highly stressed. Like my previous dog when she was scared of a thunderstorm and I tried to drag her from underneath my toddler's bed. Or a dog in severe pain. I don't trust the most placid dog never to bite in some unusual situations. Training nor temperament has anything much to do with that, in my opinion. Just like humans can act totally out of character when they are pushed over their limits.

    But there is a massive difference between a single bite and mauling someone to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogman View Post
    I wouldn't call it Complacency...I'd call it a firm knowledge and experience of the breeds that I own that I obtained from people in these dog clubs that have owned these wonderful..loyal and loving breeds for many years. I asked you have you ever owned these breeds...since I didn't get a reply...I can assume the answer is no.
    You are so good at assuming aren't you but in this case you are wrong.

    I see you are no deviating from your statement, saying that you trust yours.
    I trust mine with me too.

    A blanket statement saying that every dog of a specific breed will never maul is exceedingly irresponsible.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Di_dee1 View Post
    You are so good at assuming aren't you but in this case you are wrong.

    I see you are no deviating from your statement, saying that you trust yours.
    I trust mine with me too.

    A blanket statement saying that every dog of a specific breed will never maul is exceedingly irresponsible.

    I give up.
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    I completely fail to see how this has anything to do with breed at all. If you're going to go along that route, you would support banning those breeds that aren't as trustworthy? Because you can't trust they would not maul their owners?

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    I would have to say that I would trust 100% barring a brain tumour that my own personal dogs would not maul me to death or even bite me with intent.

    Would I leave them alone with children - no not any dog ever- although I think it would take something very unusual to force them to bite but that is not the point really.

    Genetics and temperament along with appropriate training is really important. Once a breeder starts to neglect temperament things can start to go pear shaped. The working breeders definitely still cull anything that is not suitable. I was working on the let out at a herding trial and one of the top breeders and working dog trainers told me that he euthanaises any dog with any temperament flaw towards humans, other dogs or livestock. It is not something he tolerates.

    A friend of mine has a rescue kelpie that was dumped with a litter of puppies, this dog has bitten humans and other dogs from puppyhood. She has worked very hard with him and being a professional trainer has got him very successfully working, but he wouldnt be suitable for most.

    Whatever training method you use, dogs need consistency and good timing. My current dogs have all been very easy to train but then they are the herding breeds I know so well. Most are from working breeders I know well. I have had one dog with a poor temperament from a registered ANKC breeder who was letting poor breeding practices creep in to her operation. This dog in the hands of an inexperienced owner would have been a disaster waiting to happen in my opinion. She was fine with me but I put more effort in to her than the rest of my dogs put together.
    She was definitely not wired right from the start.

    I select my dogs from certain breeders. I also know my breeds well. I have got a couple of rescue working dogs but I chose them well and will not take on a dog with a poor temperament or structure.

    I personally dont use redirection or squealing with bitey puppies. I nip it in the bud very early on and make it quite clear that it is a behaviour that I am not willing to tolerate.
    This can be done with very little force and if you have started training the puppy and I use a lot of reward and shaping the puppy is ripe for learning and is quick to learn boundaries. Yes my dogs are like my family but that doesnt mean to say that they done have very consistant boundaries that have been set and that they live by.

    Not sure about the effect of speying and neutering. I tend to do mine these days when their growth plates are closed. I know plenty of sterilised and unsterilised dogs and I cant say I have seen any glaring temperament differences.

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