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    So I purchased a puppy from the RSPCA a couple of months ago, and he was advertised as a Kelpie cross.

    We love him to bits, and he's quite well behaved for a puppy, much better than expected. Our other dogs get along with him really well, and are teaching him everything he needs to know.

    The only thing is we can't work out what breed he is, other than Kelpie . We're not too concerned, and we could always buy a DNA test, but I'm interested to see what other people may think from their past experience.

    He has quite big paws (which grew after we got him), he's a solid rusty colour, slightly lighter under his neck and on his stomach. He's got a darker bit down his back, which goes from his neck to the end of his tail. His tail is small, and we thought it had been docked at first, but it's still growing. It has a little natural bend in the end. he has two light strips on the edge of his shoulder blades. He has dark eyes and nose, and his ears are like a foxy's.

    He's very intelligent, and eager to please. He's very vocal and loves talking and barking. He will play with the others, but he's more than happy to play by himself, or just sleep or explore quietly.

    I'm interested to hear any ideas or suggestions.

    It's finally let me post a picture!
    This is when we first got him - He is much bigger now!
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    Hi 'Em_Wilson' and to the forum !

    Sometimes it can take a little while for photos to appear !

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    But just from your post, we can tell its a kelpie cross.

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    Yeah he definitely sounds like a Kelpie cross. But i'd love to see a photo anyway, he sounds gorgeous!
    If you want us to give our opinions on what other breeds might be in him i think we'll really need to see a photo of him, otherwise it is very difficult to guess

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    You have to make about ten posts before you can link but you could make a photo album on here, and upload a photo and link to that using the img tag in square brackets...

    I wouldn't bother with the DNA test any time soon. They're not very reliable and produce some very funny results even in pedigree dogs with known generations of the same breed going back years (makes people wonder if there's been some out out crossing going on).

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    Ive read that DNA testing can through up some anomalies where hereditary is 'know' from generations.
    Curious what the anomalies might show?. As DNA is a far better accurate record, than any human's method of remembering stuff.
    What sort of 'issues' ? Just coz im curious.

    sorry to hyjack the thread a bit there.
    Im a kelpie lover, all working breeds, and i start drewling and wondering if i could perhaps fit one more pup in here somewhere.
    Big paws, hints not at foxy. But some other breed, larger of course.
    Though will add, if i put my GSD in a room full of GSD's, id lay money on it, his paws will be twice the size of other GSD's. And he's very pedigree indeed. So feet can be deceptive.
    The small tail? i have no idea what dogs have small tails, but it sounds like a HUGE bonus, as most drink spilliages in this home, are made by tails taking out the surface of tables. Shame we put a stop to docking. As we all know this is the real reason to dock a tail lol

    HOpe to see a photo soon.
    and welcome to the forum

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    he could be all kelpie - everything in the description fits. RSPCA will put cross against anything they don't have pedigree papers for.

    I met a few farm dogs recently including some kelpie and short coat border collie (probably x kelpie too). The farm area they were on can get pretty swampy in winter - they all had huge feet compared to their adult fully grown size. Stops them sinking into the mud or sand - like snow shoes.

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    Just about DNA testing... We tested Hooch and he came back as Bullmastiff/Rottie/Basenji/Bassethound.
    I have to say we can really see all of those in him but every single vet who has seen him has told us he looks like a boxer cross with beagle.
    Lately he got sick with a disease that is pretty specific to boxers. What are the odds?
    So it makes us question the reliability of the DNA test.
    Looking forward to seeing your pup. He sounds so cute... will make me clucky all over again lol

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    One of the main issues with the DNA testing is that so many breeds of dogs share origins and backgrounds. All the recognised breeds of dog are all one species - Canis Familiaris. This is the most diverse species in the world, based on physical attributes, but still one species. Not like a horse and a donkey - which are related but genetically separate species.

    So a DNA test for dog breed looks for "markers" known to particular breeds. So look at some of Bunny-girls' results.

    The Bullmastiff, being an English originating, gamekeeper's dog - came from largely breeding together Mastiff and Old English Bulldog. Old English Bulldog even had Greyhound in it's foundation... Mastiff contains ancient European dogs (so potentially some of the large guarding breeds from Europe like Pyrenean Mountain Dogs) and more recently, Scottish Deerhound...

    Basenji is a primitive spitz dog type which can share markers with other primitives, so for example - the Dingo. Dingo is also behind the Australian Cattle Dog, the Koolie and the Kelpie... Basenji may also share markers with other Spitz type breeds.

    So in theory you could find markers from a vast variety of breeds, even within a purebred.

    People have sent in tests from registered purebred dogs and got mixed breed results. The nature of the tests is just not hugely reliable.

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    wow! thanks for info on DNA testing 'issues' i had no idea.

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