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    Hello,

    I live in Mandurah and have the worlds best 15 year old Cocker Spaniel.

    She has slowed down a lot of course but the Vet says I can continue walking her 3 days a week.

    The problem is that there is an aggressive male dog that is roaming the streets occasionally and who the other day attacked Sasha.

    Basically I am in a rental with a tiny enclosed back yard but a huge front yard that isn't fenced. I tied a a 20m long lead to one of the concrete pillars which allows Sash to walk almost to the footpath.

    A couple of afternoons a week I take a glass of wine out with me and let Sasha sniff the front yard.

    I had just done this on Friday only to find this roaming dog running towards Sasha. He bit her on the back before I could get to him. I basically grabbed his back legs and moved them apart as if it was a chicken wing. He released her and had a go at me. He then tried to get Sasha again but I kicked him hard and he took off.

    Hey I know hurting a dog is terrible but it was him or Sasha and what can I say I made the choice.

    Fortunately Sasha is ok and I gave her a lamb shank that night :-) I also reported the dog to the rangers but they couldn't find him.

    So I guess what can I do if I am taking the old girl for a walk and he attacks again? She can't defend herself anymore and will just collapse on the ground.

    Is there some kind of spray I can carry that will temporarily incapacitate the dog so we can get away?

    I'm scared to walk Sasha now as I don't want her hurt and she is all I've got.

    Can anyone help?

    Regards,

    Paul

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    Hi Paul,

    Sorry to hear about your lovely old girl Sasha's run in with the other dog. I dont blame you hurting the other dog...i would have done exactly the same thing mate.
    I deal with aggressive dogs often at work and i always try to dominate these dogs with a loud voice and never backing away. Maybe i've just been lucky but so far so good.
    As for a spray i guess the problem would be making sure old Sasha didnt get accidentally sprayed too.
    If worse comes to worse at work i can spray a dog with LPG gas....very loud and very very cold.....dogs just hate it. While its impossible for you to carry somthing similar i would imagine a very small fire extinguisher would have a similar effect. You can get small ones these days and it probably wouldnt have any long term effect on the aggressive dog.

    Somthing like this....not bad for $20.

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    There was an older retired chap where I used to live who spent a lot of time walking his elderly dog to the beach and around. His dog had been attacked several times, one day quite badly. So from then on once the dog was recovered, he carried something that resembled a baseball bat. He had no compunction using it if another dog looked like attacking his old girl. Maybe hairspray, or vinegar spray? not sure on that one.

    It is scary, I have had my dog attacked and it is not a nice experience. I would have no hesitation defending my dog in anyway I could. I remember whacking a dog off with my ball thrower, it kept circling me and my dog who was pressed against my legs while this dog circled and lunged. Everytime it lunged to bite, I hit it in the face as hard as I could. It was persistant but finally decided it had enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalacreek View Post
    There was an older retired chap where I used to live who spent a lot of time walking his elderly dog to the beach and around. His dog had been attacked several times, one day quite badly. So from then on once the dog was recovered, he carried something that resembled a baseball bat. He had no compunction using it if another dog looked like attacking his old girl. Maybe hairspray, or vinegar spray? not sure on that one.

    It is scary, I have had my dog attacked and it is not a nice experience. I would have no hesitation defending my dog in anyway I could. I remember whacking a dog off with my ball thrower, it kept circling me and my dog who was pressed against my legs while this dog circled and lunged. Everytime it lunged to bite, I hit it in the face as hard as I could. It was persistant but finally decided it had enough.
    I have done that too but it doesn't feel very effective if there was a seriously aggressive issue happening!

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    Quote Originally Posted by farrview View Post
    I have done that too but it doesn't feel very effective if there was a seriously aggressive issue happening!
    No it doesnt not with a ball thrower, however the bloke with his baseball bat has been pretty effective. The idea of the fire extinguisher is an interesting one.

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    Hi Sasha's dad Paul

    You might be able to find this roaming dog if you go for a short walk around your block and the one opposite, given how he appeared when you had Sasha out the front. And maybe talking to your neighbours, they might know. I suggest doing this without Sasha.

    One way to deal with an approaching dog is to chuck a large handful of kibble in its face. Doesn't work if they're intent on killing another dog, or you're late delivering ie the further away the dog is when the kibble arrives the better.

    If the dog is interested in the kibble, you have time to make good your escape.

    Otherwise - a large golf umbrella might help. And I've used a horse rope lead. If you're feeling really angry or scared, use the clip end of the lead to whack the dog. Both of these things can also be used to block a bite - ie better to get the dog's mouth full of umbrella or lead, and then push. Pulling only starts a game of tug.

    Standing up and being much taller than the dog and roaring at it can also be effective. At this point my dog usually tries to join in and scold the other dog too - which can make it hard for me to defend her.

    Some dogs will back off if you spray them with ordinary water. And some dogs think this is fun. If you're going to use a spray, you need some "lawful" excuse to carry it, and "defending myself" apparently isn't it (you're not allowed to carry mace or tazars in Australia). But a water squirty to keep myself cool or give my dog a drink (mine will drink from an ordinary nipple top sports bottle and that will deliver a substantial jet of water at a dog) or bug spray or perfume or aerosol sunburn cream...

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    If another dog was seriously attacking my dog I would have no second thoughts about sticking my boots into it's ribs with the intent of breaking those ribs. You're unlikely to actually break ribs but IMO you will have a better outcome than bashing it's head(most dogs heads are pretty solid and they feel very little when someone hits them on the head)

    A risky yet effective method of breaking a dogs hold on another dog is to fold the attacking dogs lips into its mouth and squeezing until the pain becomes too much for the dog to bear. Not really a method I would recommend but it's certainly one I would employ .. the attacking dog effectively has to bite through it's own lips in order to cause your fingers damage

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    I like Seans idea of a small fire extinguisher - I have one in my kitchen that weighs 1 kg. I've heard this recommended before actually, but I can't remember where. The idea is the noise mainly from what I understand, but I wonder would it scare the bejesus out of sasha too? You can also buy small personal alarms the size of a key ring that make a hell of a noise that may deter - again tho, what about Sasha... I personally wouldn't hesitate to make up some kind of chilli spray in a water bottle. I bet after one really unpleasant experience the dog learns that you're not the easy mark he thought and maybe not worth it

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    I would recommend you use a leash next time. As you grab the other dogs legs like a chicken wing, then use leash to encircle the groin/waist, and lift and drag the tail end of assailant, backward, teeth in opposite direction to you, and hitch leash to a post. Dog is now tethered. THEN call ranger, and have vermin dog removed.

    But dont be at all suprised if the dog has taken its measure of you, and decided your cocker's neck aint worth the bitches momma's revenge lol

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    Maybe an airhorn to scare the dog on approach?

    Interesting about the hitting on the head, when I was being circled I was fending dog off so not near enough to kick in ribs. I was aiming for the snout and face area rather than the head.

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