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    Hi everyone
    I am new to this forum so I would like to say hi and to ask a question about grumpy Lilli.

    Our Lilli is a beautiful 7mo border collie and last night she was extremely grumpy in that if any of us looked at her, her ears would go back and she would just growl :confused

    Do dogs get grumpy just like people? She is fine today but I was wondering if anyone else's dog does this too.

    Many thanks

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    This is not really normal behaviour. Have you noticed any other behavioural problems or was this just a one off? Is she a nervous dog, or outgoing and friendly towards humans? Sometimes dogs behaviour can change if they are feeling unwell, in pain or frightened and anxious.

    You probably need to give us a bit more information about Lilli. Sometimes their behaviour can escalate when they start to mature if this is the case you need to be on to it so she doesnt reinforce this behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalacreek View Post
    This is not really normal behaviour. Have you noticed any other behavioural problems or was this just a one off? Is she a nervous dog, or outgoing and friendly towards humans? Sometimes dogs behaviour can change if they are feeling unwell, in pain or frightened and anxious.

    You probably need to give us a bit more information about Lilli. Sometimes their behaviour can escalate when they start to mature if this is the case you need to be on to it so she doesnt reinforce this behaviour.
    Hi Kalacreek
    Lilli is mostly a very loving,crazy girl. She does growl a little when we try to approach her food bowl when she's eating and we pat her whilst she is growling so she doesn't think we are taking her food away. She may have been overtired but it was unusual for her to act this way. Haven't had any sign of it today so i am hoping it was maybe not feeling well.

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    Sounds like maybe she was uncomfortable, in pain,maybe in pain. I am not sure why you reinforce the growling by patting her though. I do not accept any form of aggression towards us, but my bc is pretty easy going. They are a bit obsessive though and can get spooked about things.

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    'Shazmn' - without knowing that much about your pup – other than age – then is likely that your pup is growing up – getting to the age of a ‘teenager’ - and most likely trying things on !

    If this behaviour has only just recently started – then have a look at these links:

    http://www.dogforum.com.au/puppy-dis...-calendar.html

    http://www.dogstardaily.com/free-downloads

    Knowledge Base | Steve Courtney Dog Training

    kikopup puppy tips - YouTube

    Leslie McDevitt: Control Unleashed�: Home Page

    Patricia McConnell PH.D. | McConnell Publishing Inc.

    Growling at me at my place by any of my pups - is not tolerated under any circumstance – unless the pup is hurt and/or sick – then I modify how I deal with things.

    When looking at the above links – look at ‘resource guarding’ and 'behaviour interrupting' in particular.
    You really need to nip this behaviour in the bud - and training your pup is the way to go ! Good Luck ! smiley-eatdrink004.gif

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    Hi all
    Further information relating to my earlier post. This weird growling behaviour only seems to open at night. She did again this evening and is currently laying on the floor sleeping in front of me. If I get to get up, her ears will go back and she will stare at me intensely, it's almost like she is protecting a big bunch of nothing. It is mind-boggling because during the day we play and walk and she is as loving as ever but come night time this s been happening. Anyone ever experienced this with their dog? It is almost like she looks at me as some evil thing in the night. Weird!!

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    She does growl a little when we try to approach her food bowl when she's eating and we pat her whilst she is growling so she doesn't think we are taking her food away.
    Get away from the dog before she lashes out NOW. It wont calm her, your showing her that her signals to back off mean nothing and now she's getting older she's ramping it up with growling at you. You didn't take her subtle hints and change them now she's stepping up the behavior. I'm hazarding a guess this will a combo of herding and resource guarding gone a bit askew. Night time is sit down time, you're moving and she's trying to get you back into place because you humans need growling at!

    I would call someone in to properly evaluate her and give you some strategies to recondition her to be more comfortable in the home.

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    If you pat her while she is growling it is being reinforced.

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    Yes you need to get on to it now. Weird it happens at night. Border collies are also prone to several genetic eye disorders. It is not acceptable behaviour and is not what I call normal so you really do need to deal with it and if you dont understand it you need to get her assessed.

    Patting a dog while it is eating and growling is going to put you on the highway to escaltion. I actually dont care how good a dog is most of the time, if any dog of mine displayed even the tiniest hint of the behaviour you are talking about I deal with straight away. I suspect you have allowed it to go undealt with. The more a dog is allowed to reinforce these behaviours the more likely they are to escalate. Depending on your dogs breeding, working bred Border collies are working dogs and need to be trained and managed accordingly.

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