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Thread: why do educated people even go to public dog parks??

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    Default why do educated people even go to public dog parks??

    seriously, i know we all have our democratic rights to access and enjoy public spaces , . but with all the knowledge around how could anyone throw their dog into such a random environment overun with clueless people and out of control dogs.

    i am no einstein but the first dog park i ever saw i sat in the car for a few minutes with my dogs watching the typical stuff unfold and i looked at my dogs and went, nope and drove off. have been hearing horror stories of what goes on there ever since, not my problem, not a problem for my dogs.



    if i can only give one piece of advice from my years on the planet it is this;

    NEVER, EVER TAKE YOUR DOG TO A PUBLIC DOG PARK.

    whatever good you may get out of it, it is far outweighed by the risks.

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    Hi Muttboy

    All I can say is some dog parks (or dog off lead spaces) are better than others. You have a lot of the same risks walking along footpaths - depending how secure the local dogs are kept and whether other owners think the dog on lead (and pick up) rules apply to them.

    My two fave dog off lead spaces, are not fully fenced and they're self policed... ie if someone doesn't pick up - the other people there will offer them a bag, help them find the crap... or just hand it to them in a bag with a health report... ie social pressure to do the right thing. And the owners who'd rather not have to pick up - don't come back. Same with the aggressive dogs. They don't come back.

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    While they are not suited to my dogs a friend meets up with the same people and dogs a few times a week and seems to have been lucky while other people have had a bad experience at the same park and would not go there again.I prefer going for a walk with my dogs and we are lucky with a pine forest nearby which we all love!

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    ‘muttboy’ – this topic has been talked about quite a bit on this forum :

    Some links for you:

    http://www.dogforum.com.au/general-d...dog-parks.html

    http://www.dogforum.com.au/general-d...se-advise.html

    http://www.dogforum.com.au/general-d...park-rant.html

    http://www.dogforum.com.au/general-d...dog-parks.html

    http://www.dogforum.com.au/general-d...uestion-p.html

    http://www.dogforum.com.au/general-d...-problems.html

    Now - I am really interested as to what you mean by the term ‘educated’ ! Educated - by life, school, degrees, hard knocks …….? smiley-eatdrink004.gif

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    Muttboy
    i am sure as hyacynth states, there are off leash dog parks, and offleash dog parks. Some good, some bad.

    And i dont want a bar of either thanks. for same reasons as yourself and many others.

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    It's an interesting point you raise muttboy. It is however what I would expect to read on "the dark side". How does someone(think city living people with little or no backyard) effectively excerise their dog without letting it off leash?

    I've been going to the same offleash beach/park(not fenced) for more than 5 years now, winter time is great when it's only the regulars, summer time you really need to be cautious as the once a year dog walkers come out.

    How would you suggest excersising a dog in and innercity lifestyle?

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    uneducated was prolly not the best choice of words.

    mymatejack, having never had that problem I can only guess;

    I would depending on the dog;

    train them to pull a harness and hook them to your bike.

    weight pull

    spring pole

    undercover super-market car parks late at night (deserted) are great to throw a ball then run like hell from yr dog in a game of hide and seek.

    go to your nearest school after hours and play fetch and hide and seek.


    urban improvised agility, cities are full of interesting obstacles, human parks on play equipment

    most cities have more organised dog sports than anywhere else, are you prepared to travel at all??

    what sort of dog, what city??

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    why I made the post is cos a lady here has been repeatedly taking her young timid dog to a park and the dog gets bullied every time and ends up on her back peeing all over herself, now every dog there is joining in and bullying.

    the stupid women takes advice from stupider people that say just keep bringing her and she will just learn to "toughen up"!!!! the dog screams at every human for help and they turn away cos the dog has to "toughen up".

    IT IS ABUSE.

    the dog is being traumatised, damaged and will always be a compromised messed up dog.

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    I think that is the biggest issue with lots of those fenced dog parks. They seem to attract lots of owners who think it is always best to let dogs sort things out for themselves. I think most of them think like that because they have no control over their dogs so there isn't really an alternative if they want to let their dogs have off leash exercise. In principle they could be banned from these parks because the rule is that you have to have voice control over your dog. But of course this never gets enforced.

    We have some fantastic non-fenced off leash areas here which are way better places to walk. But unfortunately none in our new suburb.

    Unfortunately there is just not much you can do to convert people who are simply not motivated to learn. And people who let their dog join in on gang bullying clearly shouldn't own a dog.

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    train them to pull a harness and hook them to your bike.
    spring pole
    Not legal on any road or road related area (read footpath or some bike paths) in Australia - thanks to the 2000 Australian road rules. It's not legal to tether an animal to a moving vehicle (ie bike or car) or lead it from a vehicle... So while riding a bike with your dog is great exercise - provided your dog doesn't run into your wheels (you train it), and the endurance dog sport people do it, it's not legal. So any grumpy ranger or cop can give you a hard time and a fine if they feel like it.

    undercover super-market car parks late at night (deserted) are great to throw a ball then run like hell from yr dog in a game of hide and seek.
    Not exactly safe for single women, or blokes on their own I imagine. Most of our car parks are locked at night, or they have cars driving around in them. And any people there are not friendly. I would not feel at all safe doing this even with my big fierce roll-over-and-pat-my-belly dog.

    go to your nearest school after hours and play fetch and hide and seek.
    Unfortunately - this isn't strictly legal either - unless you have written permission from the school principal. But it suffers from the exact same problem as our (fenced) off lead dog parks. Around here, loads of people take their dogs (and kids) to the local school grounds and let their dogs do what they like there. So a shy dog is just as likely to get picked on by people who don't really care what the rules are and their dogs and children.

    What we do have around here a few fully fenced public tennis courts... and they make small but good off lead dog spaces for training and tennis balls and you have a lot more control over who comes in.

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