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    No clothes pegs at my place either.
    The Australia day cyclone destroyed my clothesline - yay, somebody up there likes me.

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    I know ball obsession is seen as unhealthy. And unless you have a "off" button worked out with other training. All dogs who are trained in drive, are obsessed by their 'thing', whatever it be, tug, ball, squeeky soft mouse, you name it. But with building drive satisfaction, under control as a pair, it is wreckless perhaps.

    Its also the lazy bitches way (me) of guaranteeing, that whilst i have 160kg of dogs on my arm. They wont pull me over. Just in case......their favourite thing, is brought out. Be that to run fast, or a soft calming praise, a ball, its all good for me.
    They cant leave my side, as it might give them a job, and reward with their favourite thing!
    I dont need a lead, but i find the training silky leash style, leaves the learned behaviour at my easy access, if i need to go into town with one of them to beg bones.
    because their favourite thing could be given any minute, as i have them on a random reward cycle. They dont know what i might do today.

    I obsess about many things, shoes, boots!, scarves, colour, preying mantis, superstition. Its a lot of fun! Same with my dogs, they are having a lot of fun, and they each have a "off" button. Brian's still working on the pull factor lol

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    I've tried that fence wire/verandah post thing - but my wet clothes just end up in the dirt.

    However - I have been known to arrange freshly washed "smalls" across the cargo barrier in the back of the land cruiser on long camping trips. I'd guess Muttboy would be doing the inside out front to back and then chuck in the fire undie cycling instead...

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    Maybe obsessed was the wrong word, but from most of the replies I got I think most people understood what I was asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muttboy View Post
    well as a proffesional bachelor i learned that if you want to get all fancy hang yr wet clothes up on a coat hanger and you don't have to iron them, only for special occasions of course.
    I havent ironed anything in years. I just choose colours and fabrics that dont crease or show creases.

    I have had one ball obsessed dog and it was a pain. My other dogs will chase balls but are not overly focussed on them. These days I will usually only throw balls into water having had several orthopedic incidents involving balls - one blown cruciate and one blown bicep tendon. Dogs leaping for a ball or stopping or landing awkwardly can injure themselves. Most dog sport people I know tend to avoid balls because of the injury risk. I do sometimes use them when I train but in a very controlled way.

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    true ball obsession in my opinion is the basis for most modern working dog training (not herding kala) at least since brute force methods have been proven less effective than motivational methods. i doubt when the average pet owner says high drive or ball obsession they really have ever seen what that actually looks like.

    i have seen dogs on their back under a low clearance (parked) vehicle trying to scratch thru the floor of a car, they will rip their own claws and teeth out, hot muffler and all to dig a hole in the vehicle chassis to get at a scent item to get the ball reward.

    if dog's bred this way are not in demanding work 24/7 you have a real problem on your hands, thats why most normal pet owners will never see (nor should they) this type of dog.
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    Hi Muttboy

    I know of a man who trained a sea bird to carry messages so well - that it continued on its mission and delivered its message despite being maimed by a sea-eagle.

    For some reason I don't think the sea bird was bred to be that obsessed... or maybe it was. If a bird spends days on the wing looking for fish then maybe that is the perfect candidate for that kind of training.

    The man's name is Bob Bailey.

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    This week i am mainly thinking....

    playing ball, working your dog, or anything physical is DANGEROUS and will end in tears. Mine.

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    everything is a risk, i got screamed at by gsd folks for walking my puppy up 2 stairs, that is 2 individual stairs NOT 2 flights of stairs. they said that will destroy the dogs hips. call me irresponsible, cruel and unethical but if that is dangerous then that dog to me is a cull.

    not referring to fetching sticks which is dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muttboy View Post
    everything is a risk, i got screamed at by gsd folks for walking my puppy up 2 stairs, that is 2 individual stairs NOT 2 flights of stairs. they said that will destroy the dogs hips. call me irresponsible, cruel and unethical but if that is dangerous then that dog to me is a cull.

    not referring to fetching sticks which is dangerous.
    That is crazy. I do all sorts of things with my working bred dogs as puppies and youngsters and dont get too worried. However balls are not my favourite thing. They can result in very expensive injuries if you have a dog that is likely to hurl itself around like mine are. If a dog is overweight or has a heavy build I particularly wouldnt be going there with the ball personally except into water. Lots of other things one can do.
    Last edited by Kalacreek; 08-14-2013 at 04:02 PM.

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