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    I'm having a bit of a dilemma regarding when to desex Abe (photos in breed-guessing thread, please have a guess ). I have always had every intention of desexing him, but I want to let him mature and grow into his muscles before I do. I've never had a male dog before (or a larger breed), and don't know how old he'll be before he's physically mature, nor how desexing him will affect his growth, or his body shape after its done. He's a handsome boy, and I don't really want him to turn into one of those thick-waisted soft looking eunuchs I've seen around. Or will that happen regardless? Or is that a diet/exercise thing as much as anything? Please help me make the decision by sharing what you know on the subject...(and I will of course be asking the vet too at our 12 month visit)

    Beautiful day here, I hope you all have one too

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    'dhru' - with my boys in the past, I have waited until they were about 18 months old before I had them de-sexed. Their growth plates had closed by then and they were basically adult size.

    As far as putting on weight - well - you have control over that - the same with exercise. It is just a case of adjusting both when you need to.

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    agree with the 18 months - 2years time slot, females second heat cycle.

    you control the diet and excercise level.

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    cheers guys, was thinking along those lines but wasn't sure...

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    Can i just ask, as a not desex routine kinda dog owner....

    I get that the bone plates set at 18 months. And thus no more growth.
    I get that conformation dogs must measure certain heights, so you would definately want your dog to grow tall enough, feeding is appropriately so its not too heavy for its bones etc.
    But if you are not showing, why wait?

    I dont see any reason to wait, scientifically. Or am i missing something?
    Ive never shown conformation, only working, and nobody gives a rats arse how tall your dog is for this.

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    imo neuter/spay too early can make them grow taller? there are no hormones to say stop growing, thats why we do it too cattle amongst other reasons.

    if you are going to the bother of showing a conformation dog then you would think it is worthy of breeding? and hence neuter/spay is a moot question, does anyone show neutered dogs? showing imo is not so much a sport/activity it is something breeders do mainly to promote their dogs and kennels. the few shows i have been to i rarely see anyone enjoying themselves like say agility people so showing is part of the breeding process so to speak, all just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhru View Post
    I don't really want him to turn into one of those thick-waisted soft looking eunuchs I've seen around. Or will that happen regardless? Or is that a diet/exercise thing as much as anything? Beautiful day here, I hope you all have one too
    I neutered both my boys at around 19 months. They are now nearly 4 and lean and well muscled. So no it doesnt happen regardless. In fact I have trouble keeping weight on one of them. He is all muscle and bone, not an ounce of fat to be seen anywhere.

    Same with my females. I spey them at 9-12 months old and they dont appear to grow tall and lanky and are no different in height measurements to their entire counterparts when I get them measured for agility, again all well muscled and lean.

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    Desex your dog if you feel it necessary. There is no law saying you have to (yet) and frankly this unfounded fear we've been fed to cut out perfectly normal organs while our pets are still babies are ridiculous.

    Training controls your dog, fencing keeps them in. Testicles do not create maniacs. If you want to do it wait until he's at least 2 years old and fully matured.

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    When I got Abe I was all for desexing as soon as possible really, and was under the impression that as he matured he would become a handful as an entire dog. What I've found is exactly what Nekhbet has said. He has basic training and obedience and has good manners. As he discovers he likes the smell of sal (and will happily go to sleep with his nose wedged up her butt), his behaviour is just as it was, and I'm finding myself asking now, why the rush?

    I live in a small country town with a Mission, and what we call 'mish dogs' roaming the streets - not sure if anyone is familiar with what I'm talking about. Abe is here to help sal protect our property as she gets older, as just the presence of a dog is the best security you can have in this town, and we need security, with one of the highest crime rates in the state. So my other concern was the possibility of him being distracted by or even escaping to chase a bitch on heat, who wander about everywhere poor things. Thoughts on that anyone?

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