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    Default Where can i buy this stuff Ladies ??

    Please help a dumb bloke who's going shopping for Satin ball ingredients.

    I need to buy wheat germ, Unsulfured Molasses, and gelatin.

    I can find gelatine but the recipe calls for 10 envelopes ?? Whats a envelope of gelatine...cant say i've ever open a packet of the stuff ??

    Can i get all this stuff from a supermarket ?? I thought Molasses was somthing horses ate, or licked or did somthing with. I remember pouring it in holes we dug as kids hoping our friends would step in it but it was bought in bulk containers for my friends farm many moons ago. Rural supplies store maybe ? We have them locally.

    I'm thinking of using lamb mince if i can find it...guess a butchers the way to go there but might be slack and use beef mince instead. I saw a old thread where Newfie said she used lambs mince due to a higher fat content.

    Just on limited time tomorrow arvo after work and dont want to be chasing my tail all afternoon searching high and low for stuff.

    Thanks for any advice.


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    Heres the recipe i'm considering using....

    I'll omit the molasses if i end up using it long term but seeing as i only want to fatten the goofs up just a little bit i doubt this will be a long term thing. I've done the conversions to KG's and grams already...
    **Copied and pasted from here on***

    Here is a recipe for Satin Balls, that takes the best recipes from the internet, along with a discussion of the ingredients.

    Satin Balls appear to have developed in the show community, as an uncooked, homemade dog food to improve coats and put weight on a skinny dog, quickly. Many recipe variations have proliferated on the internet, but a few are mentioned frequently. The dog rescue community also uses Satin Balls to put weight on underweight dogs. The following recipe combines the best elements of two of the most common recipes circulating on the internet.

    Satin Balls:
    10 pounds raw ground beef, 70%-85% lean
    18 ounces Total Multi-grain cereal (or other vitamin-fortified, unsweetened cereal
    2 pounds oatmeal, uncooked regular or quick oats (not instant oats)
    20 ounces wheat germ
    1 ¼ cup canola oil
    1 ¼ cup unsulfured molasses
    10 hard-boiled eggs and shells, crushed and minced
    10 envelopes unflavored gelatin
    ¼ teaspoon salt
    1 teaspoon minced garlic

    Combine all ingredients and mix well. Divide into freezer bags in daily ration portions (some divide into 10 equal portions, others 14, and I divide it into one-pound packs). Flatten out the filled bags to expel air and completely fill the bags, and to reduce freezing/thawing times. Seal and place the bags in the freezer in a single layer. Once frozen, the bags can be stacked. For travel, the frozen bags can be placed in a cooler and used to chill other items until needed. Break thawed meat mixture into chunks or roll into meatballs. Feed raw as a meal or supplement.

    Yield: approx. 17 pounds @ 1275 calories/pound.


    About the Ingredients

    Beef: If the goal is to improve the coat, then use leaner ground beef. If the goal is to put weight on, quickly, then use ground beef with higher fat content.

    Cereal: The original recipe calls for Total cereal, but another fortified, unsweetened cereal could be used. Some competing recipes discourage the use of Total cereal “due to its high sugar content”, but since it is unsweetened, the sugar content is low. Total was chosen for the original recipe because of its vitamin content.

    Molasses: Some recipes criticize the use of sugar (molasses) in the recipe, however the molasses contributes minerals and calories. If the Satin Balls were being fed on a regular basis, long-term, then one might want to omit the molasses.

    Eggs: The original recipe for Satin Balls calls for 10 raw eggs. Apart from concerns about salmonella, raw egg white contains avitin which blocks the use of the B vitamin, biotin. While there is a lot of biotin in the egg yolk, to offset the avitin in the egg white, dogs do not digest raw eggs as well as they do cooked. Cooking neutralizes the avitin, allowing full use of the biotin. Cooked eggs are more nutritious and easier to digest, with more usable calories per egg, so our recipe calls for hard-boiled eggs. The shells are included for their calcium.

    Gelatin: Some recipes call for unflavored joint health supplement gelatin.
    Last edited by Sean; 07-14-2013 at 04:44 PM.


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    Wheat germ you should be able to buy from the healthy section of the supermarket, or a health food shop. Molasses might be available in the health food section too, otherwise just ask for it at a produce store, I buy a 2L container for my horse for 50c so it's really cheap. Don't know about envelopes of gelatin though, mine always comes in a container but maybe if you buy a box they will be in little packets (like yeast is?)

    Good luck!

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    'Sean' - gelatin and molasses (cooking aisle) and wheat germ (breakfast cereal area) - all from the supermarket - particularly if Woolies - Coles is getting better. Woolies has quite a large section of health foods - so should be able to get the lot in one shop !

    Why satin balls ? If it is only a little bit of weight to be put on - why not feed them twice a day and feed them more food ?

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    Thanks Riley...woolies it is then !!

    I dont like feeding the goofs in the morning and then have them running around all day while i'm not home...i'm a Bloat paranoid freak !! lol. Thats why i only feed at night so they sleep with a full belly and hopefully wont twist up. Call me paranoid...but i am. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

    I cant fit any more in thier big bowl at night !! I need to look into get some sort of extra extra large bowls...preferably really heavy ones because they both push thier bowls around as they eat and half of it ends up on the ground. I just thought i might give them a go as i've heard alot of good things about them and it'll change thier meal up a bit for kind of a treat.


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    Thank to kristy i didnt see your post sorry.

    I popped into the vets with Mojo for a hello and she mentioned his ribs where a bit visible when i asked if she thought they where and she said a few kilos extra would be fine...didnt rreally go into it with her a she was very busy.


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    I could be wrong, but I thought keeping the dog inactive for an hour after eating prevents bloat?
    I know I read it somewhere and since then I've crated Misha for at least 1 hour after her meal.
    If this is true, is this something you could do? ie feed twice a day and crate for an hour after brekkie?

    A lot of supermarkets have a dedicated healthfood isle now. Look there if you can't find wheatgerm in the cereal isle.

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    Hi Grevillea, unfortunately i cant crate either of them in the morning. I wake up at 4.45am and am out the door by 5.15 am nowdays....the goofs go crazy at tucker time and are a bit to much for the misses to handle and she has her hand full getting 2 kids ready for school and her self ready for work.

    Do ya's reckon i'd be better just feeding more of what i usually feed at night rather than try the balls ??


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    'Sean' - just be careful weight wise with my 2 (sorry) - your 2 very special Hunks ! With the breeds involved in them - you really need them on the lighter side than heavier. Also they are still only babies - and have more growing to do.

    It is a shame that you can't feed them twice a day - because that puts less load on their tummies at one time. What about bones ? Chicken carcasses ? Still counts for their total daily food tally.

    Do you still have separate areas cordoned off for them ? Because that would be ideal - giving them a bone first thing in the morning - when you first get up.

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    Maybe you could just change some of the things in their diet to something with a bit more fat in it?
    Bit hard for me to give examples as i don't know what you feed them.
    If you think dogs can't count, try putting three dog biscuits in your pocket and then giving Fido only two of them. ~Phil Pastoret

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