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    Well my evil hound decided it was brass monkey weather last night and she'd brave the wriggle pot...

    However I got cold eventually - it wasn't very comfortable for either of us, and I tried to get more blankets up and into a more comfortable position and she decided to return to her own bed... about 5am...

    Striker - cats outside? in a cat run, yes? How do you manage to persuade various critters not to eat the cane toads and etc in Brisbane?

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    My cat (and fosters) are always inside... I hate the thought of them catching and killing birds, lizards, snakes etc. plus it worries me about traffic, neighbours dogs and them getting into fights with other cats.

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    No not in a run, they're just out and about. All my neighbourhood's cats are - we have a long running joke that the cats belong to the neighbourhood haha, because everyone feeds 'their' cats and a bunch other come to steal food. Cat fights are rampant - always hear someone screeching a few kms away. Cats catch animals - that's what they are. Mine aren't very good at catching anything with wings, unless they actually eat it, because I never see any 'presents' on the back door except mice, which I don't mind because they eat through my bird seed sacks - and the odd snake - found a beheaded redbelly lying nicely on my front doormat one day. Very considerate - not. Traffic's very quiet around my place as it's a series of cul-de-sacs, and short ones, so nobody ever gets up any speed - plus the cats seem to be savvy. One thing I'm super strict on is having ALL cats desexed unless they're to be used for breeding (and therefore, kept in a run to prevent overload haha). None of my cats were gonna be breeders - except one, that was impregnated before she was desexed (had an appointment for her, and found out she was pregnant before that - awesome..). Luckily she only had 3 kittens and they were all easily placed (one stayed with us), but the new kitten was absolutely desexed as soon as it was safe hahaha. I wish male cat owners would do the same.

    Cats seem to stay away from cane toads which run rampant in my area (creek about 100m down the road from me) - the dogs, each when we got them I showed them one and said 'NO - no touching!' which they now know means 'Really - Don't touch this or I'll get on your case about it'.
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    Cats catch animals - that's what they are.
    Striker - you're very old fashioned despite being so young.

    I expect the owners of male cats - feel that making kittens is what cats do - nothing to do with the owner.

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    I hardly see how that makes me old fashioned? Animals eat animals. It's life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker View Post
    I hardly see how that makes me old fashioned? Animals eat animals. It's life.
    Cats are not a native species and therefore are not part of the natural ecosystem. What are the laws in your area about free roaming cats?
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    My area doesn't specify anything about free-roaming cats, I've searched up the legislation a bit about it and it seems to be that they're allowed out (ie. not in a run). Possibly because it's suburbia (maybe?).


    Quote Originally Posted by mymatejack View Post
    Cats are not a native species and therefore are not part of the natural ecosystem. What are the laws in your area about free roaming cats?
    Neither are humans, but we've managed to f up this country (and most others) pretty well. Other animals moving in to a 'new' territory has been going on far longer than humans - I suppose they weren't part of the 'natural ecosystem' either, but by chance perhaps and time they became part of it. I expect the same will happen to cats, considering the amount of feral cats out in the bush and such. It'll likely end up being a balance of prey and predator, as it always has been.

    Either way the native animals around here seem to be pretty wise to cats since there's a fair few of them around, and the birds are definitely wise to it - smaller animals are anyone's guess but you'll never see a lorikeet eating off anything higher than a balcony.

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    Animals eat animals. It's life
    It's also life that animals breed up until they starve and then there is a mass die off.

    When it comes to humans - we can think ahead, plan and manage. If we don't we will just repeat the "natural" pattern...

    Personally I quite like my life style and don't think I'd last very long as a nomad or subsistence farmer - so I do what I can to help the planet be more sustainable. Personally I hate roaming cats. They don't keep the mice down, they do kill native wildlife like geckos, frogs, spiders, sugar gliders and they fight outside my bedroom window after midnight, spray on my front door, dig and crap in my yard and vegie patch - which my dog loves but I hate. All good reasons to keep them inside or limit their roaming. Our council has introduced compulsory microchipping and registration for cats, which most cat owners around here have decided don't apply to them because they can't see any return on their money for it.

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    I think roaming cats really do give the species a bad name and is the reason why so many people hate cats... Dogs, horses etc aren't allowed to roam so I don't understand why cats should be allowed to roam either. If you own an animal, it should be your responsibility to ensure than animal is contained to your property, unless on walks, or at the park etc.
    Each to their own but I wouldn't risk my cat getting hit by a car, attacked by a dog, fighting with another cat, getting attacked by a pathetic person (hear a lot of those stories), stolen or unnecessarily injuring wildlife (it might be natural, but I feed him good food at home, he doesn't need to catch his meal).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristy.Maree View Post
    I think roaming cats really do give the species a bad name and is the reason why so many people hate cats...
    People hate cats ??? No...!!! Who ?????

    LOL at this thread....bit derailed methinks.


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