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    Hi Ashi,

    I am also in Victoria (Melbourne based but do travel) and can help you if you need. From what I have read on this forum, Nehkbet is also good at what she does and will help you if you take this option.

    Most problems start in the house. You need to game control when at home first an extend to outside when you are confident. If you are not confident, your dog will rea this and respond accordingly.

    I'd definitely be getting a muzzle for walking and I also look into getting a different lead to ensure no rope burn occurs again. Poly-cotton is great. It will also benefit you to learn how to hold the lea correctly to prevent lead drops. Others may have their ways but I put my thumb through the loop and then clasp my remaining fingers over both sides of the handle so your thumb is locked in. Hold it like this and then try to pull/yank it out with your other hand to see if you are holding it correctly. It should be nice an secure

    It sounds like your heeler has either had some negative experiences with some small fluffies or it feels anxious on walks and needs to "protect you" when out and about with any dog, given that is reacts to dogs it sees regularly out in te walk. The fact that your dog is running up to the other dogs and attacking is a concern as it is choosing to fight over the other two options - flight or freeze/avoid. This will need to be modified.

    Please also feel free to contact me if you would like more information. - info@thepawfectionist.com.au

    I'm sure at least one person in Victoria will be able to help you. Nehkbet has been around the industry for longer than I have and will help you if you contact her.

    Good Luck and keep us updated.

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    sorry, but someone has to say this........

    you have a dog, who you know is dog aggresive, and you have waited for it to attack another dog before you sought some type of help?

    you havent had proper control of the dog, even while on the lead? i mean really, why not loop the lead around your wrist to stop the "friction burn"?

    sorry, but to me this reeks of irresponsibility.......

    if someone cant swim, do you take them to the beach and hope for the best, then if they nearly drown do you then take them to swim school?

    its a terrible thign to have happen, and i do feel for all parties involved, but c'mon, youve brought this upon yourself havent you?
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    Health and safety people....

    Don't loop ropes around any bit of yourself that can be broken by it...

    I tie knots along the length of my lead to give myself better grip options, and if I was really worried - I'd wrap the end around a pole for extra leverage / control. pole, tree, anything but my arm, hand, or fingers. That's a good way to lose your fingers.

    If I felt I needed to wrap the dog lead around the pole - she'd be going home immediately...

    And walking very early or late - when there are few other dogs around - you are way more likely to encounter other dangerous dogs and their owners, but less likely to encounter small white fluffies.

    You might want to consider investing in a tread mill for your dog at home until you get the problem sorted.

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    fair, BUT IMO, if you cant control you dog if it makes a dash, then you shouldnt be the one walking it.... and if you're the only one who is with the dog, then you have got yourself a dog that is unsuitible for yourself......

    i have a staffy, and i know that no matter what, i am stronger than he is, bu i still put the loop on the lead around my wrist, and hold it in my hand......
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    Quote Originally Posted by reyzor View Post
    fair, BUT IMO, if you cant control you dog if it makes a dash, then you shouldnt be the one walking it.... and if you're the only one who is with the dog, then you have got yourself a dog that is unsuitible for yourself......

    i have a staffy, and i know that no matter what, i am stronger than he is, bu i still put the loop on the lead around my wrist, and hold it in my hand......
    Jeeberz bro...did someone forget to have thier protien energy shake this morning ??

    If that was the case then no one should be owning Rotty's, St Bernards etc etc....or even GSD's for that matter. There'd be bugger all humans on earth that could out muscle one of them. I see what your getting at man....just think its a bit harsh thats all. But then again i am precious as you well know.

    To me dog fights kinda come with owning dogs. No one wants it to happen ...but dogs will be dogs.


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    would you trust your lil girl walking mojo alone?

    nothng at all wrong with big powerful dogs, BUT you need to have the proper training etc, to minimize the chance of it trying to do the bolt........ the dog in question has clearly got behaviour issues, clearly dog aggressive to SWF, yet the OP chose to walk the dog, un muzzled, with a loose grip on the lead, and without trying to sort the problem out hoping it would go away by itself......

    like i said, its a terrible thign to have happen, but even blind freddy could see it coming.......
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    Fair enough Rey. I see what ya mean mate.


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    We used to have a large breed dog- also a rescue.
    He was unpredictable around other dogs- and very hard to hold when he lunged. we attended dog club training and also wked with a behaviourist from the breed specific club.
    I LOVED that dog, but after much discussion I had him put down.
    I could not live with the responsibility that he may kill another dog. I was always stressed- what if he got out? what if I could not contain the situation? I could not put him up for rescue/adoption as all services said he had had so much effort put in already, they would not rehome him.
    I held is head in my lap, while I sat on the floor of the vet, and I cried for months- but I still think it was the correct decision.

    I really hope you can find a solution you can live with.
    Are you 100% confident that your other dogs are safe when you are not home?

    I would also be trying to contact the owner of the injured dog (putting a notice up on nearby lamp posts?).
    We have been attacked badly in the street before and it was an awful shock to be on the receiving end.

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    I feel for all parties.
    having been yanked around a few times myself by 60kg x 3 dogs.

    But all issues are workable, providing you are willing. Willing = sufficient strength, sufficient time being put in on basic obedience, and some nice handy 'tool' to stop your brute dashing off, even on a 60kg take off.

    Muzzles are great too. If this becomes part of the leash = walkies scenario, ive never met a dog who does not want to put one on once they make the link between muzzle and walkies.

    So having purchased a leash or gentle leader chest harness and leash, plus muzzle. You can now handle your dog in any situation you will find on most walks.
    Once you have the control, you can begin training.

    I love cotton leashes, as they dont rope burn me, or leather for tracking.
    I love a dog that looks large. And a small breed with a 6ft owner, is a lot of bending which i dont like, i like to pat mine whilst im standing.

    Rotties are a determined breed. especially a dog/dog reactive one.

    here is my opinion on walking dog/dog reactive dogs very early, or very late. < you aint the only one doing this for the same reason, so each dog you do meet, is likely to be an issue.

    Rotties, regardless of how friendly and under your control they are, terrify a lot of folks. And that is why i have them. They are a deterrent. So i cant have it both ways. Buy a dog that looks like it could eat someone for breakfast, you will have negative reactions. Forget doggie play dates, your rottie is likely to be more billy no mates.
    And you know what, your rottie wont give a rats arse that it cant play with other dogs, it only wants you.

    Brilliant breed. Aggression can be managed, not trained immediately, but eventually. Grab whatever tools you require (leash/gentle leader/muzzle/treats for being non reactive) and get out there and have some fun together, ON LEASH.

    I have owned 3 rotties, all rehomed due to aggression. And 2 that i have purchased with no issues. they have all become manageable in the end. LAT system works lovely on reactive dogs. look it up.

    Its hard to relax on a leash, when you dont trust your leash and dog. So get a decent chest harness, and enjoy the calm. Ive recently got one for a mastiff i rescued, not for aggro, but for sudden lunges into lakes that took me with him, and sudden lunges at other dogs because he wants to play. they work fine.
    Once i could relax, i began to enjoy walking him once more, as i was getting hurt, a lot.

    A trainer, 1:1 is expensive, but my preference for training. I am taking Brian my brute, for his first session. I do alternate weeks at dog club, simply for something to do, i hate it, he hates it, but its great exposure to other dogs whilst all under control.

    Its horrid owning one of these dogs, i feel for you. But when they come good, its awesome. And speaks to the effort you both put in to get that far. Good luck.

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    I've closed this thread. It's from June last year and the opening poster hasn't been back since the day they started it. It's a good message Bernie but the person who most needs to hear it - won't.

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