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    Hi Rhapsody

    Bolognese would be legal in Australia - they're not like pitbulls. But I don't think anyone has any in Australia - to import a breeding quality dog would cost in the order of $20,000 by the time you've bought a nice one, and you'd probably have to go to Europe to find it - and follow all the recommendations about research and meeting the parent dogs, air fares to get it back, and then it spends between one and three months in quarantine when you get it here - and you get to pay for that and it's not as cheap as regular boarding... and you probably wouldn't want to do that to a puppy.

    Chances are anyone offering to sell you one of these in Australia - may be an overseas scammer - so I'd put the Bolognese in the too hard basket myself.

    The Bichon is a very laid back dog, the one I know manages a couple of laps of our local oval (about 600m per lap), he lives with a couple of Lhasa apso crosses, who are much more energetic. All of those are very affectionate with their owners, and less so with strangers or even other friends (like me), not like some of their buddies who are all over me any time and all the time. (I have treats and magic ear rub fingers).

    I don't think the coat is a lot of work - I know they all get clipped about once every 6 weeks, and I'm not sure they get bathed more often than that and not sure how often they get brushed. I brush my cattle dog x about once a week thoroughly and more often if she's shedding a lot (happens when the seasons change). Just as needed.

    If you want a dog glued to the back of your knee - the cattle dog is it. And the cattle dog will be very protective - which you may or may not want. Great for repelling door to door sales - but a donotknock.org.au sticker might be more polite.

    Poodles - apart from the regular clip - are pretty easy too. But they're much more energetic and demanding of your attention than the Bichon. They are related to working dogs - so they like to have a job to do and they're frequently smarter than their owners, really good owner trainers. I wouldn't say that about the Bichon I know or his Lhasa friends. Not the brightest dogs I've ever met.

    If there is something exciting next door (like a blue tongue lizard) - the Lhasa will bark relentlessly but the bichon does not. The poodle - it will depend on how you have trained it.

    Best way to find out what these dogs are really like (since grevillia and my experiences of them have been very different), is to meet some and their breeders at some dog shows.

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    Thank you so much, this is really helpful!

    I have some thinking to do; I like the laid back temperament that the bichon has, but I also like the fact that the Toy P is more of a lap dog.
    I've also found the Havanese which sounds pretty good too, but I've only just started researching them.

    In all honesty I think I like the personality of the Bichon the best (so far), but I'm not sure if it is a bit too active for what I want... obviously I have a lot more thinking and research to do.

    Thanks again for your helps so far!

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    A friend of mine who had many health issues had a male and female King Charles Cavalier. They were affectionate and brilliant at keeping her company. I made them a 'badge' so they could sit on her gofer when she went shopping. While I am happy with my mad Maggie I would look at one of these if I wanted a smoochy companion. They sensed when she was in pain and would snuggle and stay with her, I think they saved her life by being there and giving her a reason to get out if bed every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by farrview View Post
    A friend of mine who had many health issues had a male and female King Charles Cavalier. They were affectionate and brilliant at keeping her company. I made them a 'badge' so they could sit on her gofer when she went shopping. While I am happy with my mad Maggie I would look at one of these if I wanted a smoochy companion. They sensed when she was in pain and would snuggle and stay with her, I think they saved her life by being there and giving her a reason to get out if bed every day.
    Sorry it took so long for me to get back to you, but life has just been a whirlwind!... Anyway I did look into the King Charles and had even decided on it (this was actually before I had found this website), but after all my research I realized that they weren't an option due to their extensive heart issues. From what I was reading the majority of King Charles Cavaliers have a heart murmur by the age of 3, and a lot of them get worse and develop into other heart issues, which often result in major surgeries... I just wouldn't feel comfortable getting a King Charles knowing that I wouldn't be able to afford it's proper care, if and when it needed it!

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    Oh, and by the way I meant to ask this earlier but I kept on getting distracted, lol, but what is the ANKC website?... If there's a list of dog breeds available in Australia on there, it may help me narrow everything down, or maybe even present other breeds that might work for me.

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    link to the ANKC website: Australian National Kennel Council
    You might also be interested in the Lagotto Romagnolo. Larger than the bichon or toy poodle, but gorgeous

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    Quote Originally Posted by grevillea47 View Post
    link to the ANKC website: Australian National Kennel Council
    You might also be interested in the Lagotto Romagnolo. Larger than the bichon or toy poodle, but gorgeous
    Thank you so much I'll take a look at the website and the lagotto romagnolo.

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    Did we link you up the ANKC breeders page?

    Dogz Online - The Pure Breed Dogs of Australia

    I didn't know the Australian Cavs have problems with heart murmur. You could always ask breeders if they have problems with it (maybe vet certificates to say their dogs don't have it - or the brain squeeze problem).

    I've been told that schnauzers don't shed either, but I think they and the lagotto like jobs to do - not unlike border collies. I met an Italian greyhound the other day and was assured it is a lap dog. It sure wanted up into my lap. Very cute. But definitely an inside dog.

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    I've decided not to get any of the long-haired breeds that need more maintenance in caring for them... I have unfortunately come to realize that I won't be able to care for them properly when I'm having really difficult days.

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    I just read the thread and immediately thought of an Italian Greyhound. Can someone with more knowledge comment on this. I have only known one and she was a calm, beautiful, lap-dog sweetie.

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