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    I have found myself facing a difficult decision. As a long term animal lover, student of companion animal services and employee at a pet supply store I am finding myself conflicted and feeling uneducated.

    There seems to be a hole in my heart that only a dog can fill. I know it sounds silly but particularly with my work and school revolving around animal care and particularly dogs, I have been desperate for a dog of my own.

    The major problem I am facing is the fact that I have two rabbits who I love dearly and I appear to have fallen in love with the Beagle breed...obviously bred rabbit hunters. I have asked for advice on Beagle forums and even spoken to two Beagle breeders and have received mixed opinions on whether it is work the risk. Surprisingly both breeders have said they have had rabbits or ferrets around their dogs and not had a problem. But always there is a risk.

    I have been looking around at other breeds but always come back to the Beagle, but I am open to other suggestions or more suitable breeds.

    As well as the rabbit issue I seem to be facing a moral dilemma. Of course I am against animal cruelty, puppy farms and backyard breeding, I always thought I would adopt from a shelter. However, I am concerned that the age and behavioural problems of most shelter dogs and the fact that an overwhelming amount seem to be staffys would be a poor decision when keeping my other pets safe. I would be more than up to the challenge if was not concerned for my rabbits safety.

    So of course that leaves registered and responsible breeders. I have been in contact with a great Beagle breeder and if I decide on a Beagle, that is where I will get it from. But I was considering a beagle cross to be a slightly safer issue, for example Beagliers, as Cavaliers are such placid dogs. Then there is the whole cross breed issue that many seem to face!! I am unsure of the issues that cross breeds can create, I am to believe that all dogs are cross breeds and descendants of wolves etc but so many people seem to be very against them and obviously it is hard to find a good breeder that crosses because apparently it is irresponsible to do so.

    So I suppose I need advice on a few things. What breed would be suitable and a safer option for my rabbits? Would a Beagle be an irresponsible choice? Where should I get the dog from? Are cross breeds really that bad?

    Also does anyone know anything about A C -A Pups, a puppy shop in In naloo, WA? They have information on the breeders they source from and have been reviewed by media and Bur k e's Back yard as having great standards and good conditions. But I would love to know more before I support them to be sure they aren't the same as most pet shops.
    Last edited by Hyacinth; 04-25-2013 at 09:26 PM. Reason: edit to remove proper names of puppy farms

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    A Beagle needs focus. Meet its parents if you can

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    Can you tell us what it is you like about Beagle's?

    It may help us give an opinion on if there is another suitable breed, though if there isn't then you will just have to be very cautious.

    It seems from what I've read that they are "pack animals". Since you are only after one dog I think that will greatly reduce the chance of them hurting your rabbits. From my experience dogs can behave very differently in a pack but can be reliable on there own (Husky/Cat situation). Can't speak much for Beagle's though sorry as I don't have any experience with them.

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    The only beagle I know is very independent and is completely deaf to his owner when it is on a scent out on a walk. I like beagles but they certainly wouldnt be my choice of dog. Hard to suggest breeds without knowing your lifestyle.

    I have had 2 very nice dogs from a local shelter. One as a 7 month old and one recently as a 12 week old puppy, neither with any particular issues. You just need to be selective and fairly confident of what you are looking for.

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    I think any pup you get can be taught to live with other animals harmoniously. I have two American Staffies that would chase any cat/small animal they see to "play" with (shake the crap out of in human talk) yet they both live with a cat. It took some time for them to get use to the cat but they all snuggle up together when they get the chance now.

    The puppy won't know any different.

    If you are aware of puppy farms etc I wonder why you would consider a "beaglier" type breed when you should know where they generally come from. That puppy store you listed also looks like a great front for puppy farms in the area. I wouldn't buy from them, IMO no good breeder would sell there puppies to a pet store.

    To help us suggest a few alternative breeds we would need more information such as how much are willing to groom the animal, how much time you have available for training, exercise, size you are after, temperament, inside/outside dog.

    There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face.

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    A few things you have wrong

    Beagles are not rabbit hunters. THey are tracking dogs. Most problems stem from the fact people treat them like cuddly toys and not hounds, so they stop listening and become destructive through unchanneled drive to scent out things

    Crossbreeds are no safer. If you raise the dog right from a pup to leave small animals alone you wont have a problem almost no matter the breed. I have seen more designer dogs with horrific temperaments such as killing small animals and biting people then ever had a problem with beagles.

    AxxxCxxx A Kennels are a giant puppy farm there is nothing nice about them. Also the difference between your crossbreed and a true beagle is massive, are you only going on looks or are you actually researching the breed and its distinctive temperament?

    Your best bet is to get a puppy from a registered breeder that socialises the pups around small animals, children, noises etc. It's part of their job, and there is nothing wrong with buying a puppy from an ANKC reg breeder who does everything right for the dog. The Beagle Club has branches in every state why dont you contact them for recommendations and they usually have a puppy officer as well to guide you. I think in the way of getting exactly what you want from a dog a lot of people have missed the value of a good registered breeder. If you don't want the risk of problems then it's perfectly acceptable to want to raise your own well bred pup.

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    Last edited by Hyacinth; 04-25-2013 at 09:27 PM. Reason: edit name of puppy farmer to not googlable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nekhbet View Post
    A few things you have wrong

    Your best bet is to get a puppy from a registered breeder that socialises the pups around small animals, children, noises etc. It's part of their job, and there is nothing wrong with buying a puppy from an ANKC reg breeder who does everything right for the dog. The Beagle Club has branches in every state why dont you contact them for recommendations and they usually have a puppy officer as well to guide you. I think in the way of getting exactly what you want from a dog a lot of people have missed the value of a good registered breeder. If you don't want the risk of problems then it's perfectly acceptable to want to raise your own well bred pup.

    National Beagle Council of Australia
    Yes I would agree that this is probably a good choice of action for a first time owner. You really do need to research the breeds you are interested in so you are prepared to deal with their characteristics - talk to people experienced with the breed. Get breeder recommendations, view the parents, talk to breeder, look at how they raise there pups, find out about genetic health issues in the breed ask what health testing has been done. Dont just get a beagle because you like the look of the dog, see if the breed will suit your lifestyle.

    Personally pet shops should be avoided. Any breeder that is happy to sell their pups through a pet shop has a low care factor about who their pups end up with.

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    What is the difference between a puppy farm and a registered breeder exactly? Would it not simply be the conditions? Why exactly are cross breeds irresponsible to breed? If both dogs have a great temperament, clear of genetic disorders etc etc then why could they not produce a perfectly fine puppy? Also if cross breeds are so bad, how is adopting a cross breed from a shelter more responsible than buying a cross breed besides from the fact that you are saving the dog from the shelter?

    This is the place that the Axx Cxxxx Ax Pups source their dogs
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    This is the Beagle breeder that I have been in contact with
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    Last edited by Hyacinth; 04-26-2013 at 03:28 PM. Reason: fiddle links obscure puppy farm name

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    I am after an indoor/outdoor dog. More than likely outdoors during days of suitable weather when we are at work and indoor at night and when we are home. I like the size of a beagle, I wouldn't want anything much bigger or much smaller to be honest. I am up to the challenge of training a dog like the beagle and intend to have it properly trained and socialised. I wouldn't mind a bit of grooming, particularly as the place I work has a fantastic groomer who I would trust with anything more difficult. I would like a fairly energetic dog who I could take on walks and play with in the backyard. As far as temperament goes I just don't want it to eat my rabbits lol but only smaller dogs would reduce that risk and it will never disappear entirely.

    Is a beagle really any more likely to attack the rabbits than any other dog?

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    Hmm I have made a few posts with links to the breeders I am looking at but they won't appear until a mod has authorised it

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