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    Whoops- didn't see the other thread. Thought you might have misread 5 months for 5 weeks

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    I am a pair of dogs person. Ie. i keep them in pairs, rotties and GSD's. Boys. Except my latest pair, that is male gsd, female rottie

    This is what it is like to own 2 large breeds.
    A sack of dog mess per week, needs picking up.
    A $45 grocery bill per week to feed my 2
    Vet bills that include medicines are more expensive for large breeds.
    When they get gastro, they both get it. So two lots of diarrhoea to clean up, 2 lots of vomit.
    Twice the chewed knickers and runners, and household furniture.
    2 dogs behave differently than sole dogs. VERY differently, they will back each other up and take on other dogs, as a pack, and win. You must be a clear leader to stop such attacks. This is done by being very observant, and intervening very fast to change the course of action your pack is taking. I find watching 2 dogs closely, is tiring. eg. when the small nieces come around, and taunt my dogs, i dont want them jumping, as they weigh 45+ kilos each. That's one splattered niece!
    I have gsd and rottie, you will have gsd and dobe. You will not be welcome at peoples houses with 2 large breeds. I can tell you. And if you even so much as walk toward a park, it will clear of people with little white fluff balls, so that socialisation you anticipated having with other dog owners, forget it! You will have 'vicious' dogs, they use in movies as stereotypical nasty biting machines. People are fearful of dobes/gsd's/rotties. Socialisation with other dogs, is going to be a rare occurance. So you need somewhere, or some time, where you can let these dogs exercise off leash, and have fun, alone. Do you have that?
    You will have 2 dogs that are at different stages of development and training. This means training them separately. NOT together. That's twice the work. and twice the time it takes.
    If your GSD has any bad habits, the pup will copy.
    Your GSD alone, looks to you for suggestions of what to do, with a pup, its stupid 6 month old brain, will become leader of its pack. And you have a toddler ruling your world basically.


    Vaccinations/flea treatment/heart worm/worm treatment: look it up, its the largest dose, and you must purchase 2 doses each time
    Trips out in car: a GSD can cover the inside of a mazda 3, from glove compartment to back bumper in hair, in just one trip! Which will take me an hour to clean up.
    GSD's are very vocal dogs. Add another, and the vocal range increases 10 fold. As it will talk/sing/shout at your 2nd dog.

    Now with your GSD girl. Pay attn to when she is resting. How much time when you are home, is this dog resting, led down and quiet indoors. NOw super impose a 2nd dog, a playful one at that on top, and it will be distrubed from sleeping for much of the time the pup is awake.

    This is a objective look at owning 2 dogs. Nil judgement, just objective fact.
    Is this what you wanted?

    I have introduced a 2nd dog, the minute, i know, i have the first under my control. Well and truly.
    That takes me 9 months of puppy training, then the adolescent phase kicks in, and most find there is a period of 3 months, during adolescence, when the best trained dogs, become suddenly deaf and oppositional. And just when you are ready to put your dog to sleep, so desperate for peace, they come good again. Once this phase has passed, and i am back in control, i then added the second.

    Then from there on in. i have always had 2, and so one dies, and after a while, when the right dog comes along, and im done grieving, the 2nd comes into our family. But when i think back, its not been below a 2 yr difference. My gsd is 5, my rottie is 2 for instance.
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    ps.
    ive never owned a dobe. but those i have known, have had the so called weak nerves. They spook easily, and in their spooking, they do some dangerous things.
    the gsd's i know and love. But that teenage GSD is a nutter to own. Your decision, good luck in making the right one for you. As the consequences last 12 yrs.

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    Bernie that is the BEST reply from someone who clearly loves their dogs. Sensible,sane and absolutely clear. After reading that you would have to call the decision made whatever it is.... informed Very kind of you to take the time for such a long post.

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    This was My beautiful Dobe...she was papered and a very loving girl, but at 4 yrs of age had Wobbler Syndrome and for the next 6 yrs of her life was on meds... both the breeder and club said it only affects Dobermanns over 8 yrs old....a lie and the reason I never got another one.




    The breed has many serious health issues...but I don't agree with some of the comments about the Dobermann. Good post bernie you must have sore fingers from typing.
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    Dogman

    If you still have the papers, and the same vet - can you get the vet to send in the details to the LIDA database at uni NSW.

    The more info on stuff like this we have the better.

    LIDA Dogs - LIDA Dogs - Faculty of Veterinary Science - The University of Sydney

    Bernie - brilliant reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyacinth View Post
    Dogman

    If you still have the papers, and the same vet - can you get the vet to send in the details to the LIDA database at uni NSW.

    The more info on stuff like this we have the better.

    LIDA Dogs - LIDA Dogs - Faculty of Veterinary Science - The University of Sydney

    Bernie - brilliant reply.
    Hi Hyacinth,

    I put my girl to sleep nearly 10 yrs ago as a result of WS and it's been 20 yrs since we got her as a puppy, but you know nothing has changed because Dobermanns still have the same bloody Hereditary Diseases they had 20 yrs ago...the only difference now is the price and the breeders tell the same lies. As I said in another thread..."It's your dog now, your problem" and the breeders don't want to know.

    I don't go to that vet now and I know Lida knows all about the health problems of Dobes, I love the breed but I would never go through that again and the breeder telling me she didn't have WS... when X-rays and three vets said she did.

    About 10 yrs ago I knew one person who's Dobe was a carrier for Von Willebrands Disease and a person who's Dobe died at 5 yrs of age from Dilated Cardiomyopathy and they were told the same thing by the breeder I was..."We've never had that" and "Your dog doesn't have it either".

    Back then in the early 90's Computers and the Net weren't like they are today and the only research on breeds and health problems was to go to shows and ask breeders or ring the Club so you would think now they would tell people the truth... especially when you can name and shame them on line, but it's not the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogman View Post
    This was My beautiful Dobe...she was papered and a very loving girl, but at 4 yrs of age had Wobbler Syndrome and for the next 6 yrs of her life was on meds... both the breeder and club said it only affects Dobermanns over 8 yrs old....a lie and the reason I never got another one.




    The breed has many serious health issues...but I don't agree with some of the comments about the Dobermann. Good post bernie you must have sore fingers from typing.

    I always thought that Dobermans were always black until you posted a pic of yours, she was a real stunner.

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    She is gorgeous, very regal looking.
    RIP

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    I always have two dogs.

    Soem of Bernies points I agree with, and others I dont, but its a good indication of what to think about

    You have to do what is best for you and your current dog.

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