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    Hi, so I've come onto this forum to probe for options, and get a better understanding. My family has previously had 3 dogs, 2 flat coated retrievers, and a golden retriever x English springer spaniel. I've also looked after Labradors that were guide dogs. So...

    We were considering in getting a pup. Now I've read that Flat Coateds are interbred in WA, and I've been looking over the eastern states at flatties, but what about labs, and goldens. Also that's the holy trinity were looking at, labradors, flat coats, and goldens.

    Its preferable that the dog doesn't shed a lot, and grooming is minimal. One of the family members has allergy issues, though has been fine with the previous 3 dogs. We are fairly active, so the dog will get enough exercise. any breeders recommended?

    Thanks.

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    Hi 'Gregg H. Tomlinson-Bell' and to the forum !

    What do you actually mean by this - ' Now I've read that Flat Coateds are interbred in WA' ?

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    If you want a Labrador (would highly recommend them) I can reccomend a breeder.
    they do she'd but you can use a deshedder like the furminator to elliminate the problem..let me know if you'd like the breeders details

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    Quote Originally Posted by RileyJ View Post
    Hi 'Gregg H. Tomlinson-Bell' and to the forum !

    What do you actually mean by this - ' Now I've read that Flat Coateds are interbred in WA' ?

    I have talked to someone, and other breeders about this. there are breeders in WA that breed to keep up with demand of pups. One owner has had so many health issues it was cheaper to import one from Denmark/Sweden. Many eastern states breeders are aware of the poor quality of flatties in WA.

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    OK - So what you are really talking about here are - irresponsible breeders with dogs of poor quality and not health tested being bred indiscriminately.

    I think the word - inbreeding would be a more accurate word to use. That is breeding mother/son, father/daughter and sister/brother. This is frowned upon by the Canine Control Councils of each state and the ANKC.

    If you are looking for an ethical, responsible breeder - look at Dogs - WA to start with, then look at the different clubs to do with retrieving, gun dogs - and then ask heaps of questions !

    All dogs shed to a certain extent - but as you have said that you have experience with all three of the breeds that you have mentioned - then all you need to find are the healthy ones.

    Good Luck in your search !

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    Quote Originally Posted by RileyJ View Post
    OK - So what you are really talking about here are - irresponsible breeders with dogs of poor quality and not health tested being bred indiscriminately.

    I think the word - inbreeding would be a more accurate word to use. That is breeding mother/son, father/daughter and sister/brother. This is frowned upon by the Canine Control Councils of each state and the ANKC.

    If you are looking for an ethical, responsible breeder - look at Dogs - WA to start with, then look at the different clubs to do with retrieving, gun dogs - and then ask heaps of questions !

    All dogs shed to a certain extent - but as you have said that you have experience with all three of the breeds that you have mentioned - then all you need to find are the healthy ones.

    Good Luck in your search !
    Well I am probing for options see what people's experiences are which breeders they recommend. I have a good eye knowing what is an ideal Flat Coated in proportions as well as gait. I've had a gander at dogzonline, not too sure what credibility they have. some post the lineage of 3-4 generations which is nice to see.

    I wouldn't say i've had experienced. I've never lived with a labrador, but i've looked after them. They tend to eat a lot I've noticed. Yes all dogs do shed, I suppose the labradors are easy to maintain in grooming than a golden. The person in question has terrible allergies, so its more thinking which is the better of the three, though she was absolutely fine around a golden x springer.

    I've heard labradors shed more, and some sources have suggested a golden's coat is easier to maintain. I have no idea really. Really in all honesty the dog might get a fortnightly groom preferably, and perhaps a monthly bath.

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    Why would a goldens coat be easier to maintain than a lab?..
    Labs coats need zero grooming as the coat is short..goldens can get matted if not groomed plus it's harder to detect fleas and ticks on a longer coated dog
    U say labs eat a lot? They eat what you feed them..im sure every breed would eat more if it had the choice
    If allergies are a huge issue why not rescue a labradoodle? I'm sure there are plenty that need good homes and they tend to have the look of a golden

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    Quote Originally Posted by RileyJ View Post
    OK - So what you are really talking about here are - irresponsible breeders with dogs of poor quality and not health tested being bred indiscriminately.

    I think the word - inbreeding would be a more accurate word to use. That is breeding mother/son, father/daughter and sister/brother. This is frowned upon by the Canine Control Councils of each state and the ANKC.

    If you are looking for an ethical, responsible breeder - look at Dogs - WA to start with, then look at the different clubs to do with retrieving, gun dogs - and then ask heaps of questions !

    All dogs shed to a certain extent - but as you have said that you have experience with all three of the breeds that you have mentioned - then all you need to find are the healthy ones.

    Good Luck in your search !
    Yes I agree. I live in WA and see some very nice labs, goldens and flat coats at obedience, agility and retrieving trials.

    There is now an absolute requirement for all these ANKC registered dogs to be elbow and hip scored before being cleared to breed. No testing - no registration

    There are quite a lot of registered labrador breeders listed.
    For Goldens there is also the golden retriever club of WA who invite contact when looking for pups (The Golden Retriever Club of Western Australia)
    Last edited by Kalacreek; 01-11-2013 at 07:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elle.burns View Post
    Why would a goldens coat be easier to maintain than a lab?..
    Labs coats need zero grooming as the coat is short..goldens can get matted if not groomed plus it's harder to detect fleas and ticks on a longer coated dog
    U say labs eat a lot? They eat what you feed them..im sure every breed would eat more if it had the choice
    If allergies are a huge issue why not rescue a labradoodle? I'm sure there are plenty that need good homes and they tend to have the look of a golden
    Yeah well that's what I thought too, We think the Golden Retriever's coat is too long for her. As for labradoodle that's no good. My fiancée is allergic to poodles, and any poodle cough, they cause her asthma attacks.

    I mean this conversation started and I wanted a GSD, she prefers dogs with floppy ears, like labs and goldens. I've been around some good natured GSD's and never seen a territorial or violent one.. My aunt has had a GSD which I would walk.

    Now to give you an idea of the conditions the pet would have, it would be like this. We live in a suburban house location here, 50 meters from the beach. The backyard gets afternoon sun, there is plenty of walk trails, and kilometres of off-leash beach area. there is 3 public parks to take the dog to train/exercise. I would be walking/exercising the dog for 60-90 minutes a day, and training the pup. it is essentially solely my responsibility. The house has 3 adults, but i can't say when my significant other wants a child. I'm usually back in the house at 3pm but i leave early morning.

    I'm really after a dog that's intelligent and attentive enough to train. I do like GSD's, and we've kind of now said its probably going to be a yellow lab, as she thinks its too expensive to get a health flattie, and goldens will make her ill. though she was asking about GSDs since she knows i like them.

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    Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't poodles hyperallogenic...
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    Poodles Like the schnauzer, the poodle comes in three sizes: Standard, miniature and toy. They do not shed, but they do require a lot of grooming and care. They're easy to train, but can get a little yappy.

    Poodles too prissy for your liking? Try a labradoodle. They have the hypoallergenic coat of a poodle but on a Labrador's body.

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