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    When animals become a business and their value is measured in cash the accountants will always hold the winning hand. The well being of the animal will be secondary if they no longer have financial value. It doesn't matter if it is for meat or racing, it is measured by dollars.
    The challenge is finding a way through the maze for those who advocate for the animals welfare. The animals cannot talk. The viewpoints will never completely agree but that is how we hopefully achieve sensible balance in the end.

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    Bernie, I don't really know anything about the racing industry but I'd gladly believe that the dogs are well cared for when they're racing. My issue is with how many are discarded if they are too old or not cut out for racing. And too old is under 5 at least. There are so many greyhounds listed for rehoming and they're not a dog the average family would adopt.

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    @ Bernie. I don't think there is anything wrong with racing as such. It's just how its being done. If you have to put down thousands of dogs every year something is very wrong. I have read allegations about mistreatment of racing dogs too, such as cutting off their ears before being disposed to avoid identification. There were recently doping allegations or if it's simly the fact that they're living in small boxes from a young age without being socialised or else. One of the vets involved said in an interview he knows a number of greyhound owners who would safe the money for the drugs to put them down and simply beat them to death or drown them if they don't perform.

    I know how much dogs love chasing and how competitive they can be. So while I think there is nothing wrong with racing them as such I think there is everything wrong with how its being done. If the industy itself admits to putting down thousands of dogs every year, I don't quite understand why is there no regulatory body - outside the industry - asking a lot of questions and taking a very hard look at what's happening.
    Apparently the industry itself has said they want to do something about it, but its kept quiet for so long that I just don't have a lot of trust in them dealing with it themselves.

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    I volunteered at the local RSPCA. I knew when an older pup came in, it's life time was very limited. I cared for them for as long as I could. Most of them were euthanasied after 14 days. Each one of them had that very sad look in their eyes - they knew they had been abandoned. I do believe that they can smell or sense the death of the "room".

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    I thought i'd let this thread cool down before someone got their knickers in a twist.

    I think its cool enough now.

    Here is a great article to read about greyhound people and their dogs. I assume most people with enough common sense would assume this to be the case, but I guess this is just for those few in-betweeners, enjoy: Cut Out The Crap | “GAP” Greyhounds as Pets!

    p.s. here is the program mentioned on the article, ill link right to the greyhounds up for adoption page: http://gap.grv.org.au/GreyhoundstoAdopt.aspx
    Last edited by goindeep; 01-10-2013 at 04:21 PM.

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    If everyone who hasn't got a dog went out and adopted one, there would be no more adoption centers

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    Here is something else I stumbled across that in a way really speaks about greyhound people and doesnt lump them into one pile of evil people because of one or two bad guys: Nightrave greyhounds blog: Greyhounds love to race - read more...

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    Isn't it about 2 - 5% of unwanted greyhounds in Australia that go through the GAP program?

    Figures are what give the industry it's bad name, they tell the story of excess and wastage in black and white. And they give the impression that most have that it seems to be the exact reverse of your belief Goindeep - that it is an arsehole industry with a smattering of good, genuine and caring people thrown in.

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    I think that dumping an old dog is inexcusable really.

    As for dumping pets because you want to go on holidays, I cant imagine such a thing. You decide before getting pup that you have the money needed each year to kennel the dog for the holidays, find a holiday that has a dog friendly accomodation , or dont go. Holdiays for me are a thing of the past, but I knew that when I decided to have multiple dogs.

    How do you get rid of a dog that you have had for nine years? I looked at my 12 yo, so secure and confident, and I love her so much that I couldnt imagine how much confusion and distress she would experience if I dropped her off at the pound.

    As to greyhounds, I am sure they love to race. Just from doing dogsports such as agility I know that not every dog is going to be a winner or even particularly good. I have a BC that is amazing at agility and a BC that is far from amazing.

    There is always going to be a high turnover in the racing industry in search of a good dog and I would imagine that despite the fact that greyhounds often make great pets, there is never going to be enough homes to deal with the washouts and retirees, much the same in the horse racing industry. For every champion there are many washouts. In any racing enterprise, given the money involved I doubt there is much room for sentiment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieandMollie View Post
    If everyone who hasn't got a dog went out and adopted one, there would be no more adoption centers
    I think the problem runs much deeper. The solution lies with preventing the dogs getting to the adoption centre in the first place.

    People not breeding their house pet because they think that it should have a litter of puppies or because it is sooo cute, or they didnt get it sterilised and didnt realise it could get pregnant at 9 months old

    People only buying from ethical breeders who have a responsibility to their dogs and if things go wrong will assume responsibility for the animal they bred.

    People not getting puppies on a whim and disposing them for tardy reasons.

    I myself have 2 rescues but I also have a couple of purpose bred working sheepdogs and rescue couldnt have fulfilled that need.

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