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    HI everyone I am new to the site and just want some advice. Our 7 month old Puppy Lab x "snapped" at puppy school the other night, had a go at another dog and when my husband went to break them up he ended up with nice gash in his hand. My husband feels that the dog didnt know he was biting him his hand just got in the way, when he tried to break up the fight (obviously incorrectly.)
    Our dog has been going to puppy school since he has 8 weeks old, he has not been aggressive before, beside attempting to "mount" everything at one stage. He is well mannered and has not been aggressive before. I feel like I have lost confidence and am concerned about him "snapping" again. The trainers said it's like two blokes in a bar that just take a dislike to each other! My husband feels he that the dog didnt know he was biting him his hand just got in the way, when he tried to break it up obviously incorrectly.

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    What is your lab mixed with? He needs more socialisation and to know his place in life. As for humping everything no wonder a fight started he has no manners at all and now he's getting too big for his boots. Keep him on lead, no play privilages unless he can reliably be called away back to you and behaves in a gentle manner. It's totally possible in a dog of his age, what did your dog school say about his behavior?

    If a fight starts the safest way is to grab the back legs of both offenders and pull them apart. Nothing else is really worth it and DONT put your hands in between. Trust me it's how law enforcement break up dog fights, and we have pulled a 60kg mastiff and a 50kg rottweiler apart like this.

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    thanks Nekhbet. He has grown out of the humping, the fight started for no reason he was laying down calmly and the other dog just came close walking past. Also he is already been sterilised. The dog school were suprised as he has no problems prior to this and it was his 6th week in that class. Prior to this happening he goes to the dog beach regularly runs off the lead loves playing with other dogs never been aggresive before. Needless to say he will not be getting of the lead anymore. Thanks for the breaking it up tip :-)

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    This might be partially caused by a problem in his early puppyhood. Do you know what age he was taken away from his mother?

    Puppies learn a lot in their first few weeks of life, they are taught how to behave around other dogs, how to show respect, and the difference between older dogs and younger dogs. If his environment was abnormal it means you'll need to take extra care socializing him because the first year can have an effect on the rest of his life.

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    If he's been fine all this time then I would perhaps suggest that he migt have a taken a dislike to that one dog. It does happen.
    Also,as he was laying down,the other dog may have shown some other form of language that was missed by the humans that set your pup off.

    I would be more worried if the aggression continues.
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    Just to give you some confidence as well, my dog (an undesexed male Dobermann cross Rottweiler) showed same sex aggression at that age up until about 9 months. We worked through it, he's still entire today at 3 years old and has no dog aggression issues. He's the dog now that can walk past another dog going off its rocker and not bat an eyelid. Just because your teenager had a go at another dog, doesn't mean he will be dog aggressive. If it's just the one dog, it might just be a rivalry thing and that does happen to dogs at that age as ChoppaChop said. It's great that you're training him and that's definitely something you want to keep doing. I know it's hard, but try your hardest not to worry about him having a go at other dogs in the future. If he senses you getting scared or nervous, he may learn that you think other dogs pose a threat and potentially initiate more attacks. Keep him on the lead, but always try and visualise what you want to happen rather than imagining the worst possible outcome.

    I think your husband is right about your pup biting his hand; when they are in fight mode they don't think of anything else and like others have said, you don't want to putting your hands anywhere near them when they're in that state of mind.

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    I would be very conscious of not letting your nervousness about this affect the dog. I agree with CC that one incident doesn't mean the dog has lost it. Keeping him away from other dogs might make the problem worse, especially if the dog catches on to you getting anxious when other dogs approach.

    My dog gets on well with all dogs (or avoids them) but once she got into a sudden scuffle with a stray. It went too fast for me to see who started it. I've had her for 18 months and that was the only time she has ever reacted like that to another dog.

    Also, dog 'fights' often look worse than they are. Lots of the time it is just noise and threatening body language. Still not good, but not necessarily dangerous. Unless you decide to stick your hand near the flashing teeth!

    It is good to be aware that these things can happen, but I think the most important thing to learn from it is that you have be vigilant, carefully watch your and the other dogs' body language when they are socialising and continue to work on your dog's training.

    If after observing your dog in the next little while you think he really does have an aggression problem, you may need to seek professional help.

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    Thank you so much everyone. We will keep up the training and socialisation and just be extra careful to keep his calm, we have learn't some tips on this a training, like walking away if he is too excited and then when he calms down approach again. Anyway thanks everyone .

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    Sounds like a good strategy. Good luck. And let us know how it all goes.

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    fights never happen for no reason. Sometimes we just don't see the reason clear as day but for those two dogs it's been building The other dog may have been eyeing him off and posturing as he walked by and your dog took offence to it. He's not a baby any more and he's proving it, so now we lose a few privelages and have to behave to get them back. Simple.

    It's got nothing to do with desexed or not, male or female, they're dogs and that's how they behave. They can one day get along and the next have a fight. Those dogs I pulled off each other were my own, 18 month old desexed rottweiler and an entire male bordeaux. Got along right as rain, friends, one night shut the door and the rottie wanted the bed for himself, heard a growl and then it was on. They just grabbed each other by the necks, rolled down the back steps and lay there growling. We separated them from then on, but it was in the rottie to be arrogent and he would push the point with the bordeaux if he was in a crate, which he got in trouble for. They lived out their lives happily separated with a baby barrier or a dog crate, no stress and had my other dogs to play with as well as others, never had a problem again.

    We don't like every other human on the planet, dogs will not either. We just forget they are a dog and can react in quite a shocking manner from time to time.

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