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    Quote Originally Posted by bernie View Post
    Fancy rehoming a dog on tranquilisers?
    is it just me, or is nobody seeing anything odd here.
    I most certainly do Bernie.
    Maybe the OP gave enough info though to make them perceive him as experienced enough to still take the dog on?
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    It must be very tough to not know who this dog is without this medication. But it is hard to say why they put her on this drug. You have seen a difference in her behaviour with training. Maybe by the time you wean her off it, she might be able to control whatever over the top behaviour she displayed before. Or at least enough for you to work with.

    I think you need to prepare yourself for that not being the case too though. I think it is very admirable to not want to give up on her. But you need to make sure the dog can actually live a happy life.

    You've been doing a fantastic job so far. I hope it all turns out well for both of you.
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    Fluoxetine is Prozac - or Lovan in Aus. Get yourself to a veterinarian NOW to discuss managing this dogs medication regime. Do not listen to internet advice regarding dosage of her, you need veterinary supervision. And she's still exhibiting manic symptoms ... you need to stay on the meds for quite a while longer and get a proper behaviorist, obviously they never did that with her.

    This drug affects many different biochemical processes in the body, as well as partially inhibiting it's own metabolism so it takes longer and longer to try and eliminate it from the body.

    GO read about Prozac and how severe some of the withdrawl symptoms are. Geez I never realised the rescue handed you a dog that severe and now with a medication burden on top. Please don't take this personally but that dog should not have been medicated and left like that. This is why sometimes no-euthanasia policies are just shite.

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    I absolutely agree with what Nek has written.

    It has me scratching my head , it really does.


    I have to ask this question , it just begs to be asks in all honesty.
    Were the Group who passed you on the dog initialed P R by any chance ?
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    This is becoming more common with many rescues, even the bigger names now.
    I have seen assessments (done at the pound) taken down off the net and re-written
    by admins to describe the dog in happier terms, e.g. loves tummy rubs, will never leave your side etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chubbsecurity View Post
    This is becoming more common with many rescues, even the bigger names now.
    I have seen assessments (done at the pound) taken down off the net and re-written
    by admins to describe the dog in happier terms, e.g. loves tummy rubs, will never leave your side etc.
    Yep. I read lots of descriptions on petrescue and you can easily pick out the ones that are just too good to be true. Bit like dating sites! You learn to translate the positive descriptions. Like "absolutely loves being with people" means "separation anxiety". Or "would love to be an only dog so they can get all your attention" means "dog aggressive".

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    I understand pounds especially are severely limited in what they can do - high turn over and limited resources. Testing is quick and they can only do so much. Rescues on the other hand that say they are literally 100% no kill need a rethink. They either are limiting themselves on what they can take or they are just warehousing a dog for the sake of life. I know it sounds cold, but some dogs need to be at peace (not about the OP's dog, just talking in general) and not just kept alive in a limited environment just because. It's not fair on an animal. Personally this rescue needs to have a good shake up or start looking into their no euth policy realistically.

    Euthanasia is not always about a dogs temperament. Homes that can safely handle some animals are hard to find, and owners willing to fork out the vast sums of money and time to manage the problem properly are even fewer. Very few want a dog that is no longer a companion but a full time job. Sounds very harsh but it's true, trust me I've begged and pulled favors left right and centre to give an animal a chance to live. I do believe my favors have well and truly run dry :P

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    Prozac... excuse the language, but bugger me.

    I will contact the towns vet tomorrow. Thanks gents/ladies.

    On the plus side, I've managed to get through about half of When Pigs Fly and will be writing a mini review later on tonight - it's an engaging book that's well written and very suitable to those dog owners who have the stubborn "I really don't care what you want me to do" type dogs

    AND my clicker finally arrived in the mail! Hooray! I just finished loading it, and I can tell she loves the sound of it already

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    Oh my god. What the hell?! How could they give this TO A DOG?!

    How am I going to take her off these meds? It could send her through the loop!

    Edit: I'm going to wait till school holidays so I can get back to Perth and take her to a good vet. Then I'll see if there's a way to reduce the dosage of a capsule (since the granules inside are kinda hard to divvy up!) and do it when I'm able to be home with her.

    Really a bit disgusted. Going to have some choice words with the kennel owners...
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    Because they wanted a quick fix - and I agree I had the same reaction you had. What makes me angry is they handed you a dog with PRESCRIPTION medication and not explain how important it is to go straight to a vet with her to manage it. Sorry if it shocked you but at least now you understand the importance of veterinary advice with this stuff to help your girl detox off it. I think you can get varying dosage capsules so dont panic

    Everything done really slowly, if you need advice or help just message/email me I'm happy to help with the come down behaviors.

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