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    My new GSD girl Chloe is now 8mths old and has never been in a house let alone walked on a lead, in the month I have owned her she has started to learn many things like toilet training, house manners and of cause how to walk on a lead. As she is still a puppy it will take time and there's no hurry, I walk her around the yard on a check chain giving her gentle checks and of cause the check chain is around the right way getting her to sit and heel using plenty of treats for about 15 mins each day, when she is confident I'll take her for walks.
    Chloe is my 3rd GSD and I've done obedience training with my other two from 4mths, so I have an Idea of what to do as it is much easier to start train a 10 wk old pup than a fully grown 29kg one.

    She starts obedience training next year with our local club, she'll meet many other dogs and people because she needs socialization and this is the best way. If I were you Ceowulf I'd contact your local All breeds club and they will only be too happy to help and you won't look back, good luck. .
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    Thanks to everyone who is kind enough to chip in with some advice. Every little bit helps as I build my own knowledge bank of what works and what doesn't.

    I realised something today that might be affecting my training with Peppa. The kennels had her on anti-anxiety tablets. They wanted me to keep using them until the course was over, and even possibly longer they thought.

    I've got a strong feeling that they are suppressing the natural puppy in my little girl here and I don't really like it. She has the dopiest look on her face all the time (hah, though she could just be a dopey pup!), and has a suppressed interest in things like treats and toys as well.

    I'm reluctant to take her off them "cold turkey" as I don't know what will happen - especially when I'm still keeping her indoors while I'm at work until we can crack that fence behaviour (going well, she is slowly losing interest in it!). Really irritating. I think next weekend I'm going to not give her one on Saturday to see what happens, maybe also keep her off them on Sunday if it goes ok. I hate the idea of drugging my poor pup! >

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    I would reduce the dose instead of skipping pills. Cut them in half and then in quarters. I know people can get quite loopy if they are taken off these things overnight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    I would reduce the dose instead of skipping pills. Cut them in half and then in quarters. I know people can get quite loopy if they are taken off these things overnight.
    My thoughts exactly. Either get veterinary advice about weaning her off, or take it very slowly - 3/4 of the dose for a week, then 1/2 for a week, etc. By doing it very slowly you can observe the changes in her temperament and behaviour. I'm gobsmacked that she was released to you while still medicated

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    nooo you never just take them off, you will probably need another pack and a lot of behavioral training to help her wean off. Please whatever you do, do not pull her straight off the tablets. Weaning dogs off drugs like this should be done under veterinary supervision and the dosage needs to be reduced slowly in response to her behavior.

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    Fancy rehoming a dog on tranquilisers?
    is it just me, or is nobody seeing anything odd here.

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    Ceowulf

    Definitely no cold turkey on the tablets.

    Anti anxiety meds can help a freaked out or obsessive dog pay attention to training - where as without them - all they can do is obsess.

    Not sure this dog was ever a good candidate for rehoming - not when there are lots of well adjusted dogs being PTS because there aren't enough homes for pre-owned dogs around. But you're in it now. All we can do is try.

    When you talk to the vet - just make sure it is an anti anxiety med and not a sedative type. Because one helps calm the dog and the other just slows it down, but underneath - it's just as anxious as before. It's one reason they don't allow dogs to have sedatives on planes any more - instead of being (artificially) calm, they're still panicking - they just can't do anything about it, which makes them panic more so the trauma of the plane ride is much worse. Tho some dogs when they're upset enough - will rip a metal crate and their teeth and claws to pieces. Thunderstorms and fireworks do this to some dogs.

    There's a bit of talk about it on the November 30th edition of Nightlife with Tony Delroy
    the podcast is on this page, look for Pets with Kersti Seksel
    Podcast from Tony Delroy's Nightlife - ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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    Ps the "when pigs fly" book was recommended to me by a person who owns the most well behaved calm and gorgeous bull terrier ever. Winner of may conformation shows and has the first couple of Obedience titles. Will completely ignore naughty dogs and children at the beach. But if you sit down with a bum bag full of treats - your bag is in danger. But she doesn't get nasty about it, just pushy persistant. And she sometimes head butts people by way of affectionate greeting.

    I met the rest of the bull terrier club - and their dogs don't even come back when called. Me and my dog nearly kidnapped three of them when it was time we had to leave.

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    Ugh... So I did some research on the drug proscribed: Fluoxetine hydrochloride.

    Uses are for: Depression, OCD, PMDD (premenstrual thing).

    Great. Really, I'm not sure how to feel. I wont be surrendering her. But man, I think they gave me the hard case in the kennels :/

    Edit: Even worse, it's a capsule. No way to half/quarter it. Will speak to the vet when I'm about to finish the two months worth that I currently have.
    Last edited by Ceowulf; 12-09-2012 at 10:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceowulf View Post
    Edit: Even worse, it's a capsule. No way to half/quarter it. Will speak to the vet when I'm about to finish the two months worth that I currently have.
    Just put it in a rolled up piece of cheese. Dogs love cheese.

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