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    I think I'd give the benefit of the doubt.

    I'd explain that puppies from reputable breeders are not usually available at the last minute as it takes considerable planning and then there is waiting for the bitch to come on heat, and the time it takes for puppies to gestate. But if they're willing to wait and provide some more details about themselves - I could point them at a breeder who is planning a litter to see if they have anything suitable.

    So they probably wouldn't get a puppy for christmas from a responsible breeder - and I'd provide them with the link to the RSPCA responsible breeder list of attributes, and I'd also mention some of the legal requirements eg microchipping, vaccination, and 8 weeks old. And if it's an ANKC breeder - ANKC registration - which is not the same as council registration for a puppy farm business.

    I probably wouldn't suggest "rewording" - given your experience and some experience the responses of people who join here looking for instant puppies - I'd just go for education aimed at filling the gaps in knowledge exposed by their request,and let them figure out for themselves that their email needs to contain more info and/or a rewrite with a greater sense of patience.

    The whole way good quality puppies are acquired - has changed in the last 20 or 30 years pretty much. When we got our first dogs - we'd never heard of rescues. So we had a fairly random collection of BYB / Farm bred bitsas and ANKC bred not the breeder's fav puppies.

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    Yes all those things were explained, and as I expected it was met with hostility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosh View Post
    Tell them to get a whippet from the shelter. There are plenty of second-hand dogs that need a home.

    They don't even deserve that, and why should a rescue dog go to an incompetent owner? If anything a rescue deserves better than that!

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    I believe Mac did acknowledge that it was the wording of the email that was the issue. At no point did he suggest that the people would be bad owners because they don't think about how their 1 para email might come across in a situation like this. But if they cannot be bothered to put some thought in their communications, it is not surprising that they don't get responses. You wouldn't be that casual if it was a job interview. And getting a pup from a breeder should be a bit similar to that.

    Though re-reading that, I guess Di and Hya have a point. Maybe a response to tell them you have no pups available and a brief mention of what information other breeders might expect from a potential buyer would be a nice gesture.

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    I dunno

    If MAC did all the right things by way of providing information and they still chucked a hissy fit... I think someone who leaves everything to the last minute and has poor impulse control (hissy fit) and can't wait for what they want - might not be the best person to own a dog.

    But I feel sorry for the oodle bitsa they're going to end up with. Especially if they live somewhere with a lot of grass seeds and dirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloz View Post
    But if they cannot be bothered to put some thought in their communications, it is not surprising that they don't get responses. You wouldn't be that casual if it was a job interview. And getting a pup from a breeder should be a bit similar to that.
    How many dog owners out there who are fantastic, responsible owners don't get into these online forums, or any other scenario where they might be exposed to the things breeders may want to know? I don't think it's a case of "can't be bothered".

    Reading this thread and thinking about what i might do if i was a breeder(will never happen, i hate cleaning up after puppies lol), i'd probably have a clever email with all the questions i wanted answers to, plus a few extra's to try and sort the responsible from the "i want a puppy" buyers.

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    I can understand where the would be buyers are coming from. I just got treated like a debt shirking criminal by a bank I've been with for about 5 years. Nice. All I wanted was a credit card. And they wanted me to fill out a giant application form and send it with copies of my (imaginary) pay slips to hq for processing. I couldn't take proof of income with me to hq, I had to send it. ARGH. And miss front line staffer could not tell me what specific proof of income they'd want (if you don't have a pay slip). Sigh.

    Apparently owners of debit cards - never spend more than they have.

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    Many breeders have an application form they want filled out. And for a long time I've considered having one, but I think it gives the shonky possible byb a chance to dupe you. Give you the answers you want.

    I've had short emails before and then asked if they can tell me more about themselves, the family and how the dogs day to day life will pan out.

    The reference to the Xmas pressie and leaving the shopping to the last minute is worrying to my way of thinking. So even though I know breeders who currently have whippet pups I wouldn't forward the email onto them.

    I currently have a 9yo male Rescue that needs a good home, where someone is home a lot. I wouldn't send him to this type of home either.

    I didn't put the email on here to ridicule them I asked would you write an email like that? Since some people thought it was OK I did respond to them and the email I got back was quite rude and not for posting on here.

    If I had a litter of puppies it's my choice to which homes they go to. I do not understand why it is OK to be ignorant when purchasing a puppy. I want homes where thought is put into every facet of dog ownership right from the onset.

    People put up things about their neighbours dog or a family members dog and we respond. I was interested in what peoples thoughts were on an email.
    Last edited by MAC; 12-06-2012 at 08:41 AM.

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    You got them.

    Any posts made under the name of Di_dee1 one can be used by anyone as I do not give a rats.

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    So sad to see that Mac's account is now closed

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