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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC View Post
    Yes the meat trade is pretty horrific all round. By no means am I singling out any one country/race etc.
    I wasn't suggesting you were singling out any race/country, sorry if it seemed that way. More singling out one animal. Lots of cultures eat dog.

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    Yucky!

    I don't think the meat trade anywhere will ever be perfect. But there are those out there that do it properly and humanely. We just have to hope that the word keeps going around. And those that do the wrong thing get punished. I am not a vegetarian but i won't eat anything that i think is weird to eat. Like kangaroo's, snakes, stuff like that. I don't even eat duck because i own two pet ducks. The reason i choose to keep eating meat is because i guess the world just has to keep going round and round. We are part of the food chain..
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    if we werent supposed to eat meat, god wouldnt have made animals so tasty.........

    i have no issues with other cultures eating dog, but the way in which they do it is what i have a problem with........

    sharks are also a preditor, they taste fine to me...... ever had flake at your fish and chip shop?
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    Yep reyzor, I'm the same, it's not that people eat meat - of any kind, because I certainly love eating meat, and I understand fully what is considered a pet or cute for one person is not for another, for me it's the housing and some methods of death that I find distressing and would like changed.

    I saw a doco on the killing of the dolphins in Japan and it was horrible, the method of death was horrible. I couldn't eat dolphin myself, even if death was fast, the same way I couldn't eat horse.

    I do love flake (shark), however despite that I still hate the thought of so many being killed for their fins and then thrown still alive back into the sea, why can't the sharks that are killed for their fin also be the same ones used for the flesh.

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    Mac, I probably mentioned this before, but I grew up on horse meat in Europe. I was much cheaper than beef and our family was poor. I must admit that I enjoy grossing Australians out with that story. (And with how we eat raw beef on our sandwiches.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC View Post
    Yep reyzor, I'm the same, it's not that people eat meat - of any kind, because I certainly love eating meat, and I understand fully what is considered a pet or cute for one person is not for another, for me it's the housing and some methods of death that I find distressing and would like changed.

    I saw a doco on the killing of the dolphins in Japan and it was horrible, the method of death was horrible. I couldn't eat dolphin myself, even if death was fast, the same way I couldn't eat horse.

    I do love flake (shark), however despite that I still hate the thought of so many being killed for their fins and then thrown still alive back into the sea, why can't the sharks that are killed for their fin also be the same ones used for the flesh.

    I have pro fisherman neighbours who have told me some real horror stories about shark finning.

    Firstly, the sharks you eat as flake are much smaller or younger .......species like reef sharks etc. The big guys taste like crap....very iodine flavour.

    The sharks flesh is also worth next to nothing compared to the fins. We are talking hundreds ...somtimes more for one set of fins. The bigger the better....hence why the iodine flavoured trunk (body) is dumped over the side....usually with the shark still well and truly alive. Pisses me right off they cant at least brain spike it or shoot it first.

    Apparently theres at least one big buyer who buys up and down the whole east coast and the $$$$ for fins is just mindblowing.

    I was shocked when he showed me pictures of thier catches....they didnt seem to have a problem with it.


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    Sensativity to animal deaths vary from person to person, I do think a lot that happens in some trades overseas are pretty bad but i also think some of it is exaggerated. I am part of a bowhunting club where a lot of guys regularly go out hunting feral animals such as pigs, goats and deer, there is a lot of negative press out there about bowhunting I don't go hunting myself but have done the bowhunter proficency course and wouldn't have a problem shooting the above animals with my bow after doing the course because it promotes close clean shots. There are people out there who do the wrong thing in australia, one comes to mind which was not so long ago where a roo had an arrow sticking out of it, now what comes to mind whenever I see something like this in the papers is that some bloody kids have gone out and are taking pot shots at an animal which is firstly protected unless a permit is warranted which I'm pretty sure is only given in the meat trade. But coming back to my point in a round about way there needs to be more done to stop people from cruelty such as in bowhunting for example the proficency course as a pre requisite for hunting and even possibly buying the equipment which gets tricky then because a lot of archers do just shoot targets but there needs to be an proactive approach to these matters no matter what they are.

    Just a bit on the roo trade it is heavily regulated the animals are shot then collected quickly because they are rejected at the abbatoir if they test positive for certain bacteria. I don't have any issue with the use of roo meat, due to agriculture there is an abundance of food which in turn relates directly back to a roo population boom there is an estimated 50million roos in australia.

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    Thanks Sean. At least I get why the whole large shark is not utilised. I think it may be similar with dolphin, it is served in Japanese schools for lunch and as sushi meat. However one Japanese researcher wouldn't allow his children to eat the school prepared meals due to high toxic levels, the bigger the fish in the food chain the more it carries.

    Beloz, I also can't eat rabbit, I guess because I've had pet rabbits, my mother on the other hand grew up eating rabbit. We ate our own chickens growing up, not just the eggs, I learned very early on not to name or make a pet of any of the chickens. You and my s/daughter would get on, I swear meat just grazes the pan/bbq/griller or whatever, medium rare is fine with me, but she likes it blue.

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    Lol I can have mine blue too it means still mooing
    Yummy most veggies come back to the blue meat yummy
    but I'm happy to eat rare meat
    And I have no prom with eating meat
    It's high in vitoms and all that good stuff
    Oh and my mum and dad make the best roo meat meatballs yummy
    At my home at the table the number one rule is to gard your plate
    we use roo meat in our paster and meatballs
    yummy I love my meat lol talking about it is making me drool lol XD
    Oh and I'm having silverside to nigth yummy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    I have pro fisherman neighbours who have told me some real horror stories about shark finning.

    Firstly, the sharks you eat as flake are much smaller or younger .......species like reef sharks etc. The big guys taste like crap....very iodine flavour.

    The sharks flesh is also worth next to nothing compared to the fins. We are talking hundreds ...somtimes more for one set of fins. The bigger the better....hence why the iodine flavoured trunk (body) is dumped over the side....usually with the shark still well and truly alive. Pisses me right off they cant at least brain spike it or shoot it first.

    Apparently theres at least one big buyer who buys up and down the whole east coast and the $$$$ for fins is just mindblowing.

    I was shocked when he showed me pictures of thier catches....they didnt seem to have a problem with it.
    i think we have spoken about this before......

    agree, if your going to kill somthing to eat, do it humanly, with as little stress to the animal as possible........

    shark fins need to be certified, basically stating that the shark was disposed of humanly and not left to die without fins.........

    though it would be hard to regulate
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