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Thread: Thinking of buying a Bl ue Am staff from Ant do nas Kennels, help me out ?

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    Like the others. There are so many staffys in pounds and shelters... have a look at this gorgeous girl

    Tootsie - Medium Female Staffy Mix in VIC - PetRescue

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    or my friend, who 'nipped into the shop' for some smokes, came out to find his 6 month pup had just ripped the drivers seat out, and disemboweled it in the back seat. In the 5 mins it took him to return to the car - max!
    Dozer they called him, because they named their pup on the first day, when all it did was doze. ROFLMAO!

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    Hi BigMicky,

    I personally have not heard good things about that particular kennel. IMO they breed for looks over anything else and their dogs are far to muscular for the breed it is suppose to be. I would keep looking at different breeders. Here is an old post from a member who also visited this kennel - http://www.dogforum.com.au/breeders-...s-kennels.html

    It is extremely important that you find a breeder breeding for good temperament over anything else, colour should come last. Keep in mind that most "breeders" breeding blue AmStaffs will add an extra couple of hundred dollars for the "rare" aspect of the colour... which is not rare at all. If you choose to go with the blue colour, do not go for a pup that is solid blue. Try and find blue parti.

    Here is a list of breeders from the Breed Club in Victoria American Staffordshire Terrier Club of Vic - Breeders Register

    I'm not sure if you have owned the breed before. But they do need an experienced owner IMO. They will need constant training and socialisation from a young age (preferably socialisation from 8 weeks when you get the pup). They have a higher tendency to display dog aggression, sometimes regardless of the amount of socialisation you do (and if you buy a pup from someone with questionable breeding programs you will have a higher chance of that happening). They do need regular exercise and will need to be trained to walk on a loose leash, if they can they will pull like a bull dozer, which makes walking not fun.

    Good luck, finding good breeders is hard. It would be a good idea to find out when some dog shows are coming up and talk to some breeders and meet some dogs and see what you like. It is also a good way to build up a rapport with breeders as well as it shows you are truly interested in finding the right pup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC View Post
    I've never quite got the colour craze thing.

    Personally I wouldn't touch a blue Amstaff, or probably a blue anything unless it was a cattle dog. .
    LOL.

    I also think that there are a lot more important things than colour. I always seem to end up with the traditional black and white Border collies even though there are a range of colours that are trendy and pretty because I have a lot more things that I need to tick off before colour. In fact colour and ear set is at the bottom of the list.

    There is some great advice from the posters above who know these dogs. My casual observations of the staffys I have seen is that temperament is really important as is the early socialisation and training. I have known some wild, obsessive compulsive, over the top staffies that would make my working Border collies look laid back and me shudder at the thought of owning them.

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    Stay away from Andonis , that is all I need to say about that kennel.
    There a few good kennels in Victoria.

    For the 'blue' thing?
    If you like blue then you like blue. That is your choice,many people love blue dogs,I very much like blue dogs. But also dont get blinded by the colour alone,make sure there is a good dog underneath the blue first .

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    ps; I dont fully believe that Amstaffs are for experienced owners only. I actually think they are a good first time dog....so long as said new owner has common sense and is willing to learn .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    Stay away from Andonis , that is all I need to say about that kennel.
    There a few good kennels in Victoria.

    For the 'blue' thing?
    If you like blue then you like blue. That is your choice,many people love blue dogs,I very much like blue dogs. But also dont get blinded by the colour alone,make sure there is a good dog underneath the blue first .

    Welcome to the forums

    ps; I dont fully believe that Amstaffs are for experienced owners only. I actually think they are a good first time dog....so long as said new owner has common sense and is willing to learn .
    Hey guys, thanks for all the replies... I 100% agree with all your comments and that is why I am not rushing into and just buying the first Amstaff puppy i see.
    I've been calling up VIC breeders looking for a puppy that i can go and inspect that has all its needles and health checks done and I really want to see its parent's first to see what they are like.

    I fully understand what you guys mean by the temperament of the dog being important and i have taken that on board. I have found a blue and white amstaff puppy that will be ready in january and i have my heart set on this dog.

    I really just wanted a pup so i could train it from a young age and really let it get used to my family.

    Any other tips would be greatly appreciated on this breed of dog

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    ps; I dont fully believe that Amstaffs are for experienced owners only. I actually think they are a good first time dog....so long as said new owner has common sense and is willing to learn .
    I think a lot of breeds are fine as first time dogs. My first dog was a working bred cattle dog! However this is where it is really really important to understand the particular breed and also to be very happy with the what the temperament is likely to be.

    This is why a good relationship with the breeder is important so that the breeder knows what will potentially work for you among their pups. A good breeder will really help you here and if they dont I would walk away. Yes if you like blue you like blue. However you have to live with the dog for the next 12 -15 years so make sure what is underneath has a high chance of being something that you can live with.

    I guess even though I too have colours that I am attracted to, many years of owning high drive working breeds has thrown that out the window as a high priority LOL. For me it is all about the temperament and other things that I really want in a dog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChoppaChop View Post
    ps; I dont fully believe that Amstaffs are for experienced owners only. I actually think they are a good first time dog....so long as said new owner has common sense and is willing to learn .
    Lol I only say that because most people seem to lack common sense!

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    Hi ' BigMicky54321',

    You have been given heaps of excellent advice from very experienced people in the above comments.

    A comment you made:

    'I fully understand what you guys mean by the temperament of the dog being important and i have taken that on board. I have found a blue and white amstaff puppy that will be ready in january and i have my heart set on this dog.'

    Having your heart set on a particular pup is good - but this will turn to heart-break if you haven't done your homework on the health of the pup's parents.

    Have a look at the following:

    Disorders by Breed - American Staffordshire terrier - LIDA Dogs - Faculty of Veterinary Science - The University of Sydney

    It is based on American info - though it is still very relevant.

    Ask the breeders heaps of questions and if you don't get satisfactory answers then find another breeder. One of the biggest hassles when looking at this particular breed of pup - is that there is no shortage of breeders around. So choose very wisely !

    Blues are nice looking pups - but they do not warrant the extremely high price that goes with them ! They are not rare at all and do show up in litters, depending on the breeding behind the parents and of course genetics.

    Happy hunting and please do heaps of 'homework' !

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