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    Default Treibball training partners wanted for fun!

    Always on the look out for new ventures with my dogs. This Treibbal has got to be the easiest most accessible, for those of us who have dogs with more energy than sense at times.
    In a nutshell, your dog gets to round up 'sheep' (those big exercise balls they use in yoga).
    The video gives step by step instructions, and the dogs have fun to boot!

    Here is a link to video i watched on "how to train Treibbal.
    How to Teach The Basics of 'Treibball' or 'Push Ball': A Great New Game for Energetic Dogs! - YouTube

    You dont need a ball for a while, so you can get crackin straight away.

    I thought it might be fun, to have others join in the fun. We can then report back on our success and not so successes lol

    Today, ive done one round on Pohm and Bernie separately, on step 1: teach "touch" my hand with clicker.
    Who up for a laugh?

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    I will be in it, have to have a closer look this weekend.
    We are looking for sheep substitutes and I get bored throwing the ball!

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    I took my agility stuff to the local cricket oval and one of the BCs peed on it. And the owner called his dog away but did not offer to clean it up or apologise or anything. I ended up putting that bit in the bin (it was cardboard box I was using for a jump post). Not happy at all. I'm going to have a hard time being nice to him and I will bring out the water pistol next time. Sigh.

    I'm willing to bet there'd be some dogs that would pee on the ball too. Just cos it's tall. But the game does look like great fun. i wonder if my evil hound would pop the ball or not.

    PS - after watching the video - for the initial nose touch stuff - I (and Susan Garrett) - drop the treat into the hand that the dog is targetting to reward. And don't reward licks, or bites that you might get after food goes in your hand. But rewarding as close as possible to where you want the dog to perform the action is helpful - unless you're doing distance work. And then you may have to practice throwing a treat or toy to the right place.
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    @ farrview "Looking for sheep substitutes" ha ha, this made me smile, knowingly.

    Ive taken vids and got my daughter roped in to take photos. She took a fair few for a reluctant teen. However, not one shot shows either of the dogs touching the target, not a lot of use. But i am doing min of 3 sessions for each dog daily. Is this enough? Do i need to do more?

    Having watched the video, and broken it down into steps. I came up with this list, and think i have come to a stall.
    Step one. Touch the target, in this case, my hand.
    Firstly, im very spastic lobster with this clicker, treats, and dont seem to get the rest of the house to myself, so there is always distractions. And my timing seems poor to say the least. All fingers n thumbs!
    This is way harder than it looks!
    However, we have completed step one. Pohm on day 2, is better than bernie. But can you blame him with me on the other end of this clicker milarky. However, somehow, we can manage 10 out of 10 correct "Touch" verbal que, and the dog will touch it with its nose.
    Step Two
    The free shaping bit. Where you only click treat for closed mouth touches. Now this point is worth labouring with Bernie. Who has seen the "sheep" and tried to bite it.
    So, i did 4 repeat sessions with him. Thought we had closed mouth sussed, and then today, (day 2) he starts mouthing my hand for treats, not 'touch' behaviour.
    My mistakes: i couldnt decide which hand should hold clicker, which hand should hold treat, couldnt remember am i supposed to be giving a verbal que at this point? So i went back and watched the video, added some extra notes to my notes.
    Then i without the dog, worked out what was more comfy in which hand. Got the dog back in. And started dropping the verbal que of "touch" and click treating the "touch" behaviour on my hand.
    This is how far we have gotten. And really, i should of already practiced what to have in what hand, way before i got my dogs out and confused the shit out of them.

    Now we have hit a problem in bernie in step 3.
    Which is to use "touch" verbal que, marker tape on door and have dog "touch" the tape.
    He's very confused, and wants the treats out of the bag, not to touch. He's distracted as my OH has just pulled up in the car. So i have him touch my hand, click treat and stop.

    Pohm has not yet tried touching the door.

    My question is. I wonder if i need a 'bridge' here, like touching tape on my hand?
    Ive allready put same tape on ball ready. (still wanting to just whip that ball out, and see what happens? Resisting though).
    I can see that both my dogs are happy doing this. They are really enjoying 'working things out'. Bernie and Pohm are touching my hand outside of training sessions. Im just ignoring this. Should i reward it?
    I have done clicker training before, using the word "yes" in neutral tone instead of clicking. Tempted to revert back. But want to try something new, for new results, not same for same results.

    @ Hyacnth.
    Thanks for posting this:

    PS - after watching the video - for the initial nose touch stuff - I (and Susan Garrett) - drop the treat into the hand that the dog is targetting to reward. And don't reward licks, or bites that you might get after food goes in your hand. But rewarding as close as possible to where you want the dog to perform the action is helpful - unless you're doing distance work. And then you may have to practice throwing a treat or toy to the right place.

    This helped me when i got confused over what to have in what hand. Thanks! Its MUCH easier with the treat in the target hand, than in clicker hand. Its like learning to dance this stuff.
    I use distance when the dog is too close to target, to put dog away from me, so it has to move again to touch target.

    I'll stick to working on touch tape on door today. Initially click/treating for near to tape. Then get a bit picky, and reward only 'on' the tape. Then i guess its for 'pushing' the door.

    I hadnt realised that peeing on equipment was a bad thing. So how do i prevent, or should i prevent Bernie doing this in the first place?

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    You're inspiring me, Bernie. I have been meaning to teach Banjo 'touch' for ages but forgot about it after a few half-arsed attempts. If I can get myself organised, I'll join you in your quest.

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    It looks like photobucket is accepting all my uploading of videos. so i will post links soon. The warts n all versions. Ive done my best is all i can say. but having watched them. Can see multiple errors on my part. I feel sorry for my dogs, that they've ended up in our family lol
    Beware, this is me, making a complete arse of meself. for the sake of the 'kids'. In public. But i dont give a rats arse. We're having fun.
    The dogs are currently down the dog beach at werribee. so should come home with half the beach as per usual. Teen can hose them off - if she wants to take them to the beach.
    Will do some more sessions later and post the video links.
    Yeah come on Beloz. Banjo's so gonna thank you. If you can get organised. Tis a tall ask. lol

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    I'm preparing to move house, so pretty knackered. I'll see if I can train myself to do a quick session every time I'm waiting for my coffee to brew. I drink LOTS of coffee.

    I'll have to watch the video again. And my clicker skills are a bit rusty.

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    I am as we speak uploading to photobucket. But my internet is a grannies pace as we have ltd access now kids arent on it playing video games with overseas folks.

    We are at day 3, and Step 3. Touch tape marker on door.
    and having to shape this somewhat. From look in direction of door, through to touch tape. Still not pushing yet though. So having now to change verbal prompt to "push" and getting picky, only click/treat for push type touches.

    Pohm is a little more sedate, so tends not to charge in willy nilly. And gets it right more often that way. Whereas Bernie is more 'let me at it' for training. Adrenalin junkie that he is!

    My clicker skills are shite! My timing is shite. Hence stuck on changing from 'touch' to 'push' as this is where my skill needs to be better. But i figure, that it will improve, then my dogs will move forward on this, so its a win win really. Now ive worked out what goes in what hand, it seems easier.

    My son has started with Sherlock pup. (but grannie here, has already done clicker sit and clicker drop with him and he's way faster at 'getting it' than either of mine. lol)

    Im doing this waiting for kettle to boil also lol. And i drink LOTS of tea!

    Then sarvo, around to a crowded house for 40th birthday, where there will be roughly 30 people, 10 or so small people, and one new pup to meet for my two. Excellent training opportunities for Pohm, who's trying so hard not to jump up at the moment.

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    I haven't started yet as my lazy dog stays on the bed while I make my first cuppas in the morning. But keep the updates coming to motivate me!

    Love big parties for training! When Banjo was still a complete hazard to all people not big enough to counter 25kg being launched at them, I went to a brunch do where a bunch of little kids were walking around with BACON in their hands (ok, only one of them had bacon, but there were quite a lot of kids)! I remember watching it and despairing. But it was probably the best training session I ever did with Banjo! After initially barely being able to control her on lead, I did a 15 min training session and for the rest of the time we were there she wandered around calmly without bothering any child even once. It's the story I always tell when I try to convince others to use LAT training.

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    Here is video of Bernie clicker touching door.
    Bernie Clicker touch target2 video by BernietheGSD - Photobucket

    Photo Setting up with verbal and gestural prompting to touch the door for dogsakes!
    http://i1070.photobucket.com/albums/...ay1and2021.jpg

    Really short video showing 2 goes at touching.
    Bernie clicker touch target 3 video by BernietheGSD - Photobucket

    And after this mornings practice....
    Bernie can touch the door without gestural prompt. Just verbal que "touch". this means he has to turn away from treat bag and me, and go toward the door. So pretty good for a hungry pooch.

    Pohm needs gestural prompting still. Tends to go to pieces if unsure. And my timing is enough to make any dog unsure.


    And also crammed into their morning, was gate crashing some group of strangers walk to the lake. I was in the garden with dogs, planting some jasmine. When i noticed my dogs were gone, and the gate was wide open. I go out into the paddock, and there they are, at the lake, with a group of folks and 5 other dogs, having a whale of a morning swim together.
    Cheeky sods.
    They came back, and the strangers just thought it was funny, dog gatecrashers.

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