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    Hi all, My Misty is a Black Lab cross who has the most gorgeous nature, she is very loving and always wants some part of her leaning against us, no problem there. She is very friendly with other people who come to the house BUT she is very unsociable with other dogs. For the first three years of her life she was the only doggie in the family, now our Son has got a Brown/red Lab 2yo and our daughter has two pups, one Cav and one Cavoodle, when they bring their dogs around to visit our girl gets up on a chair and that is where she stays, she refuses to look at them or make contact with them at all, she will stay there all day if she has to. Our Son and his family are going to move in with us while their house is being built so we'll have Major (Lab) staying here to and I'm not sure how to get our girl off the chair LOL she can't stay there for 12/ 18 months LOL. Has anyone got any suggestions on how we can get our girl off her chair.
    I have in the past got her off to play but Major is a rough dog so Misty's tail goes back between the legs and heads straight for the chair again.
    Our options that we plan are to move the chairs but they are her only escape,
    We plan to take the two of them walking a lot so they get use to the closeness of each other.
    Any ideas would be most appreciated.
    I probably should mention that she had been attacked a couple of times when we went walking with her as a pup, I feel this has been the reason for her current behaviour, unfortunately I was unable to take her for walks for some time after these attacks so she finished up being away from any dogs at all for that time.
    Thanking you in advance,
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    Dee.

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    Does she get on with other dogs away from your home? Maybe re-introduce the two in a neutral location ..... btw i'm sure someone who actually knows what they're talking about will reply lol

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    Hi mymatejack, she's not too bad outside of the home but she is still very wary of them, however I think being on the lead gives her a bit of security, that's why we plan to do the walk thing together each day. I think it's the energy that these pups have, she just doesn't want to be bullied into playing with them. Thanks for your reply.

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    Hi Dee, the walking together sounds like a good plan (but I'm with MMJ, someone with more experience should be here shortly) it's nice to see another West Aussie on here ...

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    Hi findeb, we are going to take her down to Major's to see how she goes in his territory, we haven't done it before because of the way Misty gets, she really stresses out, but now we can't have her sitting on her chair for 12 months LOL. We have our daughters pups here at the moment, she stayed on the chair all day yesterday, I took her away from them last night just for her to have a run, a feed and relieve herself which she did very quickly LOL, she is back on her chair today.....
    Nice place WA, I have a soft spot for SA because that's where I was born and most rellies are there....but WA is my home State.

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    I'd keep the introductions short so Misty doesn't get too stressed, poor love, can't have her sitting on the chair all day.

    That reminds me, I had offered to look after a friend's old dog last year. Her sister would normally dog-sit but was going away for the first few days so I said we'd do the dog-sitting for 6 weeks. A week beforehand we bought Ruby, a 4 month old boxer x, very much a boisterous puppy. My friend dropped her dog off and went on holidays, and Ruby thought his was better than Christmas, her own doggy friend, but Jazz was horrified and promptly jumped on a chair and spent the weekend on a chair or our bed! I took them out walking and they were great, but once back in the house Ruby would not leave Jazz alone. Luckily my friend's sister dropped over after her days away and offered to take Jazz with her. She rang the next day and said Jazz had slept for 24 hours straight, poor love, but was relishing being the only dog again.

    I think I'd leave the chairs there, it might end up stressing her too much if she can't get an "escape". Good luck!

    Can't believe it was beautiful beach weather yesterday and today the thunder feels like its shaking the house! So glad Ruby doesn't get affected by storms, she's just lying in her bed....

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    It's unusual for a dog to not tell a pup off themselves for being too pushy. Most dogs readily do that. But if she cannot tell him to back off herself, I reckon someone else is going to have to do it for her. There are very few adult dogs that will tolerate that kind of over the top, in your face puppy behaviour and I reckon they have a right to not be subjected to that. So I would tell your son to start training the pup to behave less wild around her. It'll take much longer than if your dog would just growl or snap to let him know when he oversteps the line, but I reckon it's going to be the only way to keep the peace.

    I'm not an expert either, but you probably need to learn to read your dog's calming signals to know when the pup's behaviour is getting too much and then train the pup on lead and walk him away if he is stressing her and only let him come near her if he behaves calmly and respectfully. This is not an overnight process, but it can work and he will get less interested in her eventually. Only then I think can you start working on giving your dog the confidence to relax when he is nearby. As long as this pup is being rude and pushy, I reckon it's not much use trying to get her to accept him.

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    Is her being on the chair to gain height advantage, superior, as to I am the better one, or you think fear...I would have to see this. The not looking at them is often calming signs, but i am only guessing

    It might be better to ask for some help, where someone ( who does dog behaviour) can do a home visit and see what is happening. Sometimes we encourage our dogs behaviour (nervous/anxious/fearfull) by kind words and petting. It might do as beloz said to control the puppy, but also be more positive and give your dog some calming, positive Leadership.

    Hard to say without seeing, but I might put the older dog on lead and not allow her to go on the chair. make her sit/drop and keep the puppy also under control. maybe a good time to do some work with them together on lead. Even parallel walking might be good onto dog meet dog at a distance, but keep them both concentrating on the handlers.......Often when dogs have worked in the same area, things calm down. it might make the puppy tired and calmer too.

    Sad when puppies get attacked.it does leave some scars, but lots of work and just getting on with it often helps. Sad that it has been left so long
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    I think the idea of getting help and a training plan to deal with your dog's specific problems is a good idea. Otherwise there may be really bad fights - especially if you're not around to stop them.

    I think the chair is Misty's safe place - and I would not take that away from her - not before she has a new safe place - like her own crate that she can be at peace without being hassled by rude labrardors.

    I think walking them together is a good idea, but I'd start with a big space with few other dogs - idealy all dogs on lead and I'd walk the dogs far enough apart that neither is showing any signs of stress. Ie no looking away, lip licking or worse - lip curling etc. Happy dogs and then I'd let them be closer together. I think you will have to take it at Misty's pace and don't rush things. Give her plenty of time to work out for herself that Major is no threat to her. Some extra special treats or toys that she only gets when Major is around (but not too close) would also be good. And maybe swap blankets ie bring one over for Misty that Major has been sleeping on. Start with maybe just one night's worth of Major scent and see how you go.

    Look up LAT and BAT on this site and generally and have read of how to reward a dog for showing calm self control in an environment where they would normally be reactive (grumpy).

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    Hi again Findeb, sounds like your experience with your friends dog is similar to what we have here, I don't have the heart to take her chair away from her, we will take it slowly, one hurdle at a time. We had our daughters Pups here for the weekend and Misty actually got off her chair during the day and laid on the paving..... that's a start
    The thunderstorm came up very quickly this afternoon didn't it????? Lovely to smell the dampness on the drying grass though.....

    Quote Originally Posted by findeb View Post
    I'd keep the introductions short so Misty doesn't get too stressed, poor love, can't have her sitting on the chair all day.

    That reminds me, I had offered to look after a friend's old dog last year. Her sister would normally dog-sit but was going away for the first few days so I said we'd do the dog-sitting for 6 weeks. A week beforehand we bought Ruby, a 4 month old boxer x, very much a boisterous puppy. My friend dropped her dog off and went on holidays, and Ruby thought his was better than Christmas, her own doggy friend, but Jazz was horrified and promptly jumped on a chair and spent the weekend on a chair or our bed! I took them out walking and they were great, but once back in the house Ruby would not leave Jazz alone. Luckily my friend's sister dropped over after her days away and offered to take Jazz with her. She rang the next day and said Jazz had slept for 24 hours straight, poor love, but was relishing being the only dog again.

    I think I'd leave the chairs there, it might end up stressing her too much if she can't get an "escape". Good luck!

    Can't believe it was beautiful beach weather yesterday and today the thunder feels like its shaking the house! So glad Ruby doesn't get affected by storms, she's just lying in her bed....

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