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    Default The Day My Heart Stopped in My Chest. Interested in Your Opinions.

    Jarrah being a Husky is a digger. We have a blue heeler pup next door and She used to dig under the fence and the two of them would play untill I went and got her, or Next door bought her back. We were both happy with this as It stopped the puppy from barking and Jarrah loves him.

    One day 3 weeks ago I came home from dropping the kids off and went to bed because I felt unwell. Jarrah was alseep on her bed. I was woken at 11am by something, I knew something was not right and I could hear a funny noise so I went to investigate. Jarrah was not in our yard so I climbed the fence calling her and she was not in neighbours yard either. Then I hear a whack and the most terrible whine I have ever heard, and I just knew it was her and my blood frooze in my veins. I heard the wack again and again this dreadful whine, by this time I was screaamin her name.

    The lady in the house behind me came out and shouted your dog had klled my neighbours chickens, and I swear time stood still. I ran to the car and drove around to the house. I know the young girl who lives there and she let me in. I went out the back expecting feathers, blood and my dog out of control. Instead I found three chicken in a heap, very few feathers and no sign of Jarrah.

    The lady of the house called out the owner is here and he came around a corner dragging Jarrah with him, she immediately cam and sat at my side.

    He siad I had to hit her she attacked me, and she killed the chickens. He also said she had blood lust now and was dangerous and I would have to have her killed. I offered to replace said chickens and took her home, howling all the way. She had no blood on her anywhere and no feathers stuck to her fur. I was in shock, felt sick and thought She was going to have to go.

    When I got home, I was crying so hard and told DH he hit her with something hard, I heard it, DH said tuff she killed their chickens and I was absolutely heart broken. First thing I did was call the RSPCA for advice and they put me in touch with a behavioural vet specialist called Cam Day (I think). I called them sobbing my heart out, I knew she did not kill the chickens in a frenzy, I am sure she saw them running around, dug under the fence and perhaps pounced on them, I guess I will never ever know.

    Cam was magnificent seeing as he had a sobbing barley coheriant woman on the phone. Once he realised she had never been vicious, violent, or aggressive before, that we had 2 cats at home that lived in the house and she was often inside with them and never bothered them, he advised me to watch her behaviour over the next few days and we took her to him for an assesment.

    Now I want to say right now if I thought for a min she was dangerous, if those chickens had been ripped apart and she showed signs of aggression over them I would have driven her to the vet myself.

    So after having her assessed he said she was no danger to people, she was basically still a puppy and we had to be firm with her. (she has had a week live in obedience training as a puppy).

    I replaced the chickens (which are being kept against council laws as I was to find out) and we chicken wired all the fences so she sould not dig out any more.

    Three days later council rangers show up while I am out. The have had a complaint that we have a vicious dog and they have come to investigage. They asertain she is not vivious, or a threat. They are very happy with the steps we have taken to prevent anything like this happening again and tell DH in their opinion it was a crime of opportunity. She saw the chicken and wanted to play so dug her way in. They filled out a repor and told us they would not have to follow up.

    For the next week, she never left my side at all, and for the first time ever slept inside on our bed next to me. I have not cried so many tears before.

    The daughter of the house told mutual friends that her mothers boyfriend hit jarrah with a cricket bat untill she went down, that is heresay and I can't prove it.

    Last week he told next door if her dog didn't shut the F**k up he was going to effing kill the C**T of a dog.

    Jarrah has not left the yard since, has showed no signs of aggression to my children or the cats, and when inside likes to near me at all time.

    I still feel so guilty about the chickens and what she did, I feel as though I failed her and those people. As for her "going" the man, I suspect he came at her in a aggressive manner and she growled at him, as he had no bite marks, well none he would show me anyway.

    It is a sad and sorry tale, one that left me absolutely shattered. Would you have had her put down? Did I do the right thing.

    FWIW, every morning we go to our local dog park, she has never gone another dog or person there, in fat she is freindly and in you face friendly.
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    What you see as friendly some people see an intimidating.

    BTW it's total BS that an aggressive dog would tear a chicken to pieces. My old shep - the one before Cappy - got to their neighbours chooks. Well - they got into our yard. He tore them apart - nothing left but feathers and a cluck! He wasn't an aggro dog - EVER - it was simply the fun of the chase

    Sandy and Cappy tag teamed a possum once - and she tore it to shreds before we even got to the yard. Sandy was never aggro - it was just instinct

    The bloke sounds like a douche

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    Ok, to me (and I am no expert on either Husky's or dog behaviour, other than my own), you are right on the money with everything you have done. If she had a prey drive, I'd have expected her to have a go at the cats, or the pup next door or something else small and fluffy.

    You've taken steps to make sure she can't get out, you've replaced the man's chickens, and you didn't smack him in the head for beating your dog with a cricket bat (so you're already a bigger person than I).

    If I can make a suggestion, get a notebook, and take down all the details including date, time etc that you ever hear him going off at an animal, threatening someone about their dog etc, the time MAY come down the track where you'll need it, he sounds like a moron.

    I hope Jarrah is ok, best of luck.

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    Now I want to say right now if I thought for a min she was dangerous, if those chickens had been ripped apart and she showed signs of aggression over them I would have driven her to the vet myself.
    Why for god's sake!?!?

    Why do you people keep interpreting prey drive as an aggression??? And I read this forum and see many here are doing this??? Dogs have an instinct, they are deep down inside hunters, even those couch dogs like pugs, maltese and shi-tzus. They all have it inside. Why is it so efin surprizing that a dog that's never been introduced or trained in any way not to chase chickens (or live stock for that matter) reacts the way Jarrah did? IT IS PERFECTLY N O R M A L. No, it is not desirable, and I am not suggesting in any way that dogs should do it, but from their point of view, in their eyes, in their world it is normal. I would never ever even think about euthanising my dog because it killed a f'n chicken! It has nothing to do with aggression especially nothing to do with aggression towards people or even other dogs. Some breeds have really strong prey drive others don't. Huskies unfortunately do have a very strong one. And hunting breeds too.
    It is up to US to socialise our pets, to teach them what they can and what they shouldn't do, to prevent them in all possible ways, not to let them dig underneath the fence and secure them properly. It is always our fault, never theirs!

    It's god you've replaced the chooks, but you should make sure she never gets out again. This guy is a moron, I'd probably stick his baseball stick up his butt for hitting my dog, keep away from him and take care of Jarrah.
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    I agree too. You've done the right thing and that has been backed up by the Council's investigation. My boy Boris killed two of my daughter's ducks when he was a puppy. No blood on him or them, he just grabbed them by the neck as he ran after thn (after having got in their yard to have a stickybeak at the interesting things...) - poultry have fragile necks and they break very easily. That doesn't indicate aggression from your dog - just normal instinct.

    You wouldn't put a cat down for killing a bird if it got outside. I know we expect more from our dogs, but Jarrah is a pup and it sounds like it had been a big lesson indeed.

    Boris nailed a BIG possum in the yard the other night. Dogs can kill small animals very quickly when the thought crosses their mind.

    Your neighbour sounds like a bit of a jerk. S**t happens. Not everything is under his control. You have replaced his birds and he should take a moment to act like a grown up about it. I know that he probably won't, but I'm glad you have anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedra View Post
    Why for god's sake!?!?

    Why do you people keep interpreting prey drive as an aggression??? And I read this forum and see many here are doing this??? Dogs have an instinct, they are deep down inside hunters, even those couch dogs like pugs, maltese and shi-tzus. They all have it inside. Why is it so efin surprizing that a dog that's never been introduced or trained in any way not to chase chickens (or live stock for that matter) reacts the way Jarrah did? IT IS PERFECTLY N O R M A L. No, it is not desirable, and I am not suggesting in any way that dogs should do it, but from their point of view, in their eyes, in their world it is normal. I would never ever even think about euthanising my dog because it killed a f'n chicken! It has nothing to do with aggression especially nothing to do with aggression towards people or even other dogs. Some breeds have really strong prey drive others don't. Huskies unfortunately do have a very strong one. And hunting breeds too.
    It is up to US to socialise our pets, to teach them what they can and what they shouldn't do, to prevent them in all possible ways, not to let them dig underneath the fence and secure them properly. It is always our fault, never theirs!

    It's god you've replaced the chooks, but you should make sure she never gets out again. This guy is a moron, I'd probably stick his baseball stick up his butt for hitting my dog, keep away from him and take care of Jarrah.
    I totally agree!
    If one of my dogs did to a child/adult what Jarrah did to the chooks, would be the only time i'd consider/be forced to euthanize....It wouldn't even cross my mind over chooks.
    Prey drive is not aggression!
    I sympathize with you Jarrah, it would have been a horrible experience.
    The most important thing is that your yard is secure at all times. Jarrah doesn't understand why one minute it is ok for her to go next door to have fun and it's not ok to go to the other neighbours. In her eyes it's ok because no one told her otherwise before.
    Not long ago my 2 girls killed a baby bunny(wild). It was at my inlaws property. Now Misi used to be friends with a bunny I had, and she's good with birds. Lola's still a pup and loves to chase. I would say that it was her but I would never say she's aggressive...I was very upset to see this poor little bun killed - and the girls got told off... but it's one of those things- They would have seen it as a game.

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    Thanks everyone, the yard is secure now she can't dig out, and since the incident has not attempted to dig a hole. This has been a huge lesson for me, about dog behaviour and what is normal dog behaviour. Once again many thanks for your thoughts
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    Sounds like Jarrah may have learnt a lesson too... Is she ok physically?

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    Yep she is fine now...........that night she slept on my bed and I hardly slept because I was listening for her breathing all night, It was like having a new born all over again. I have medical training so I kept a really close eye on her for the week after it happened. She is back to normal now except for the hole digging.
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    Yep I agree, a lesson for everyone inc. Jarrah.
    I'm just sooooooooo glad she did't get seriously injured. Glad she's ok.
    Chin up Jarrahs mum

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